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    People on here need to wise up and face the bare facts about our team, having read the various threads since Sunday fans really need a reality check.

    We are 12th in the league after 10 games with 12 points. A point per game usually ensures premier league status come the end of the season. Even with no points from our next two games (which most people are predicting) we will still be on course.

    At the start of August every single one of us would have taken this position after a quarter of the season.

    Adel is a confidence player and last season NW used him to his best ability bowing to his tantrums and behaviour but getting the best out of him. Adel was a big player in a small team and quite rightly shone and got us where we are today. However, the premier league is a different kettle of fish to the championship and to date Adel has not risen to the challenge. Whether this is because NW is not focusing on him as much, or that Adel is not as good as we want him to be at this level yet who knows? All I do know is that we as a team cannot continue to progress if he continues to play the way he did at Spurs.

    J Barton, LY, Amand T, SWP and Anton F are much bigger players than Adel and Adel needs to learn that not everything will go his way now. I don’t know if he is playing to specific orders but I do know he is a shadow of what he was last season. Maybe he’s not yet good enough for the PL and we are too inpatient?

    IMO NW needs to take a leaf out of Sir Alex’s book and rotate our top players more. We seem to set out each game with the same 4-2-3-1 formation that served us so well last season, but the premier league is a lot different. It clearly does not work for every game. Adel should be used in the free role in games against lesser opposition to the top 4. We are unlikely to repeat the Chelsea result against the likes of Man U and City, so why persist with this formation. The second half at Spurs where we played 4-4-2 proves we can mix it with the best, and believe me Spurs played the best football against us that I have seen this season including the performances of Man City.

    Remember Liverpool lost 4-0 at Spurs, so in comparison our result wasn’t too bad. At 2-1 we could quite easily have gone on to make it 2-2 and final result may have panned out differently

    When we play 4-4-2 Adel should not start, but when we play against the likes of WBA, etc give him the free role he was so successful in last season.
    Akos Buzsaky is not fit and will have an operation very soon so he hasn’t fallen out with NW as some posters would believe.

    Faurlin has been our best player by far this season but I now see some on here are slating him. Ray Wilkins comes in for stick from people who don’t rate him or his opinions but to play for England, Man Utd, Chelsea etc you must have something about you. He has done the commentary for Sky on both our last two games and has stated that Faurlin is bar far our best player. He knows when to slow things down, when to keep possession of the ball and when to increase the intensity of play. If only we had two or three more like him? Players like Smith, and Buzsaky fall into this category too.

    People are now getting on the back of Derry and even Mackie. These players, although not blessed with an abundance of skill, are vital to our team. Mackie’s persistence in the chasing of lost causes lead to the two or three corners at Spurs that ultimately lead to our goal. A balance of these types of players along with players such as Faurlin and Barton is what we need, so get off their backs.

    We are new to this, NW has little experience of the PL,Tony, Amit and Co are new to this too, so as fans we need to get behind our club from top to bottom. We need to stop slating every player each time he makes a mistake. I think only Luke Young, Heidar and Anton are the only three players so far to not be berated on this site.

    Get behind the team, it’s a learning curve and we are doing just fine, so get behind QPR or ship out. FFS we have waited 15 or so years for this and we all know that TF will make funds available in January.

    Sit back and enjoy the ride, savour every moment as you never know what’s around the corner and be careful what you wish for.

    Come on you Superhoopsaaaah!
    22nd February away v Charlton is the 40th Anniversary of my support of QPR and my first game. Away v Chelsea 3-3 23rd Feb 1974. 40 years of pure magic!!

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    Yeh I agree although I didn't read it all.
    http://twitter.com/Mellowhoop

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mellowhoop View Post
      Yeh I agree although I didn't read it all.
      I liked the pictures.......

      Very good and well reasoned article.
      I wonder if we'll see Adel at all in the next few games. His confidence is obviously shot and he can't keep being wheeled out to the firing squad in the mental condition he's in ATM
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      • #4


        Seriously tho some v gd points, particularly about the fans and Faurlin - didnt know Wilkins had said that and as you say his opinion can't be dismissed lightly.

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        • #5
          Just looked in the mirror. Thanks anyway...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dpmd View Post
            Just looked in the mirror. Thanks anyway...
            Yeah me too, got to remember to do it more regularly.

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            • #7
              A good atricle until you get the point where you are telling people to "get behind QPR or ship out". It's not for you or anyone to tell fans what to think, or say. If yoy were at the game on Sunday you would know exactly how much the fans are behind the team, especially in the second half when they really gave everything for the cause. That is all we ask. Fans will always talk about the game afterwards, how it went, who played well and who didn't, who they think needs to be dropped who they would replace them with, etc. etc. Everyone is entitled to an opinion
              Last edited by rangersroar; 01-11-2011, 01:17 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sotonsuperhoop View Post
                People on here need to wise up and face the bare facts about our team, having read the various threads since Sunday fans really need a reality check.

                We are 12th in the league after 10 games with 12 points. A point per game usually ensures premier league status come the end of the season. Even with no points from our next two games (which most people are predicting) we will still be on course.

                At the start of August every single one of us would have taken this position after a quarter of the season.

                Adel is a confidence player and last season NW used him to his best ability bowing to his tantrums and behaviour but getting the best out of him. Adel was a big player in a small team and quite rightly shone and got us where we are today. However, the premier league is a different kettle of fish to the championship and to date Adel has not risen to the challenge. Whether this is because NW is not focusing on him as much, or that Adel is not as good as we want him to be at this level yet who knows? All I do know is that we as a team cannot continue to progress if he continues to play the way he did at Spurs.

                J Barton, LY, Amand T, SWP and Anton F are much bigger players than Adel and Adel needs to learn that not everything will go his way now. I don’t know if he is playing to specific orders but I do know he is a shadow of what he was last season. Maybe he’s not yet good enough for the PL and we are too inpatient?

                IMO NW needs to take a leaf out of Sir Alex’s book and rotate our top players more. We seem to set out each game with the same 4-2-3-1 formation that served us so well last season, but the premier league is a lot different. It clearly does not work for every game. Adel should be used in the free role in games against lesser opposition to the top 4. We are unlikely to repeat the Chelsea result against the likes of Man U and City, so why persist with this formation. The second half at Spurs where we played 4-4-2 proves we can mix it with the best, and believe me Spurs played the best football against us that I have seen this season including the performances of Man City.

                Remember Liverpool lost 4-0 at Spurs, so in comparison our result wasn’t too bad. At 2-1 we could quite easily have gone on to make it 2-2 and final result may have panned out differently

                When we play 4-4-2 Adel should not start, but when we play against the likes of WBA, etc give him the free role he was so successful in last season.
                Akos Buzsaky is not fit and will have an operation very soon so he hasn’t fallen out with NW as some posters would believe.

                Faurlin has been our best player by far this season but I now see some on here are slating him. Ray Wilkins comes in for stick from people who don’t rate him or his opinions but to play for England, Man Utd, Chelsea etc you must have something about you. He has done the commentary for Sky on both our last two games and has stated that Faurlin is bar far our best player. He knows when to slow things down, when to keep possession of the ball and when to increase the intensity of play. If only we had two or three more like him? Players like Smith, and Buzsaky fall into this category too.

                People are now getting on the back of Derry and even Mackie. These players, although not blessed with an abundance of skill, are vital to our team. Mackie’s persistence in the chasing of lost causes lead to the two or three corners at Spurs that ultimately lead to our goal. A balance of these types of players along with players such as Faurlin and Barton is what we need, so get off their backs.

                We are new to this, NW has little experience of the PL,Tony, Amit and Co are new to this too, so as fans we need to get behind our club from top to bottom. We need to stop slating every player each time he makes a mistake. I think only Luke Young, Heidar and Anton are the only three players so far to not be berated on this site.

                Get behind the team, it’s a learning curve and we are doing just fine, so get behind QPR or ship out. FFS we have waited 15 or so years for this and we all know that TF will make funds available in January.

                Sit back and enjoy the ride, savour every moment as you never know what’s around the corner and be careful what you wish for.

                Come on you Superhoopsaaaah!
                Good post mate.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sotonsuperhoop View Post
                  Akos Buzsaky is not fit and will have an operation very soon so he hasn’t fallen out with NW as some posters would believe.

                  This afternoon QPR Reserves host Reading at the Harlington training ground in a behind-closed-doors friendly.

                  Tommy Smith will start for what is a strong R's team, alongside Bradley Orr, Akos Buzsaky, Jason Puncheon, Hogan Ephraim and Lee Cook.

                  *Highlights from this game will be shown on QPR Player

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                  • #10
                    Some good points raised by Southampton! Something to remember though, it is a message board and this is where many fans come to vent after a loss or celebrate after a win, emotions can be over the top either way! So far I'm finding our journey in the top flight quite intriguing, you just never know what's around the corner! I personally think the fans at LR and then at WHL in the last two matches have been phenomenal, keep it up!
                    @gatorTFC

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                    • #11
                      I should add that it will always be posters that never are quite happy with anything. You have to get used to it. Once again, top post.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by gator View Post
                        Some good points raised by Southampton! Something to remember though, it is a message board and this is where many fans come to vent after a loss or celebrate after a win, emotions can be over the top either way! So far I'm finding our journey in the top flight quite intriguing, you just never know what's around the corner! I personally think the fans at LR and then at WHL in the last two matches have been phenomenal, keep it up!
                        Bloody hell, if you can hear us from Canada, we must be loud !!!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rangersroar View Post
                          Bloody hell, if you can hear us from Canada, we must be loud !!!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by rangersroar View Post
                            A good atricle until you get the point where you are telling people to "get behind QPR or ship out". It's not for you or anyone to tell fans what to think, or say. If yoy were at the game on Sunday you would know exactly how much the fans are behind the team, especially in the second half when they really gave everything for the cause. That is all we ask. Fans will always talk about the game afterwards, how it went, who played well and who didn't, who they think needs to be dropped who they would replace them with, etc. etc. Everyone is entitled to an opinion
                            If you read my thread from yesterday you will know I was at the Spurs game



                            Problem I have is that some posters on hear just moan and moan all the time and its usually those that regard themselves as the 'better fans', so whats wrong with telling them to 'ship out'?

                            Anyway, just off to start this weeks 'whose a better fan than you' thread
                            22nd February away v Charlton is the 40th Anniversary of my support of QPR and my first game. Away v Chelsea 3-3 23rd Feb 1974. 40 years of pure magic!!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sotonsuperhoop View Post
                              If you read my thread from yesterday you will know I was at the Spurs game



                              Problem I have is that some posters on hear just moan and moan all the time and its usually those that regard themselves as the 'better fans', so whats wrong with telling them to 'ship out'?

                              Anyway, just off to start this weeks 'whose a better fan than you' thread
                              you moaning about moaners?

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