Racism ?

[roose]

Van.
I have tried to explain before they way our planet has evolved the white race has been the master race for most of it therefore someone calling you a white **** the only thing you will be upset about is the word **** as being white makes you a better person than being black or asian and we all have that feeling deep inside us some deeper than others. Reason is our fathers and their fathers and so on believed it only in the last 15 years are people starting to change.

The fact that the colour of our skin depended on weather one could own a house go to school or even live at times over the last 2 generations is why people get upset if you put the word black in front of the word ****.

As for Welsh Qprdave, they are welshman the same as Englishman and scotsman I can't for the life of me believe anybody could think that is racist. #### is a slang word for a American short for ####ee not a derogatory term like #### has become it is not used as a short for Pakistain but Paddy is offensive.

Think about Australia they call us Pommy *******s does it bother us I would say not really mainly cos we have not been their slaves or oppressed by them.

[PeterG]

"Even at a sub-conscious level his remark was revealing."

of course but many people are inherently racist, if you shot everyone in the world that was inherently racist there would probably only be about 10% of the worlds population left standing. doesnt matter weather you are white. black, or anything in between. Racism is deeply ingrained around the world and is ingrained in the human concious. Education and intergration come help overcome this but saying you are intelligent and educated is no defence against racism, some of the best educated people have been and are overtly racist

[acricketer]

Where do you draw the line?

[roose]

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."

When his dream comes true.

[vanhoop]

Van.
I have tried to explain before they way our planet has evolved the white race has been the master race for most of it therefore someone calling you a white **** the only thing you will be upset about is the word **** as being white makes you a better person than being black or asian and we all have that feeling deep inside us some deeper than others. Reason is our fathers and their fathers and so on believed it only in the last 15 years are people starting to change.

The fact that the colour of our skin depended on weather one could own a house go to school or even live at times over the last 2 generations is why people get upset if you put the word black in front of the word ****.

As for Welsh Qprdave, they are welshman the same as Englishman and scotsman I can't for the life of me believe anybody could think that is racist. #### is a slang word for a American short for ####ee not a derogatory term like #### has become it is not used as a short for Pakistain but Paddy is offensive.

Think about Australia they call us Pommy *******s does it bother us I would say not really mainly cos we have not been their slaves or oppressed by them.

agree,the pc brigade have taken racism to a new level ,i mean the blackboard has become the whiteboard.my view on it is that everyones there to have the mick taken out of them regardless of colour or religion.seems that our colonial cousins work the pc brigade for an easy life

[PeterG]

"We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."

of course there was a typo in that original statement, bearing in mind they were in the process of wiping out tribe after tribe of native americans at the time what they really meant was

We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all WHITE men are created equal.

[indianalondon]

Lets all agree that oriental women have the best nipples

[QPR_NW10]

in the words of the Daily Mail....football racism has come a long way, so lets just put up with it

[qprbrisbanedivision]

It seems to me the only group of people that can't use the race card are White English born. Tell me i'm wrong?

Mate..come with me for a walk down Southall high sttreet or through Slough late at night and I'm pretty sure you'l get a reason to use the "race card" allright !!!

[qprbrisbanedivision]

Brisbon,
Not sure which of my comment you refer to or if all of them.

Sorry if your not up for the debate, doesn't matter which colour I am but you seem to have judged me already. In your eyes, now I'll always be a racist. Wrongly, I'm IN my Avatar, you decide which one !

Of course I wouldn't want my Mother treated as such, no one in their right mind would. Which is why I mentioned how I prefer to treat people until they do otherwise.....then I act.

If the comment you refer to was about French and a certain cricket team - I apologise, it was meant to be witty, ironic but I can see it was just crass.

Finally, if we have so many openly racist posters on this message board (i'm not aware of that many) is it not good to open a debate in the hope they might learn something ?
Surely saying nothing is worse ?

Mate, no offense taken at all...
firstly i hat ethe french too and glad they lost the world cup !!

Due to our wonderfull time diffrence i've missed this whole debate which is a shame as it looks like it was quite intresting.

All i can add is that i'm of mixed race and i have racist black and white friends. I dont count though..appaerntly.....
I know black guys who wont talk to me because my misus is white and i have white friends.!!!! I have white friends who i tought to draw a swastika when i was 12 at school.....Seems to me that there are racists in all nations and races....
Also becomes apparent that none of them are too bright either.....How could anyone support QPR and be racist? not to many white Englishmen running around in the Hoops now-a-days....and as for Chel****.....they only got good when Gullet arrived !!
it always made me laugh that the most racist supporters i knew had a black manager with dreddlocks!!!

Anyway.......nothing matters anymore because..WE BEAT CHELSEA !!!

[QPR1976]

Fair play Brisbane.
It was Chelsea who had a section of fans who would not celebrate or acknowledge any goal scored by a black player. Paul Cannonville springs to mind
I used to think this was crap until I met one of them. I was astonished when he confirmed this.
Of course, many of this tribe no longer go to games (life bans or self inflicted), others still go but have had to change their stance since Gullit and their money came otherwise, they'd hardly ever celebrate a goal !
Of course, Abramovich and Russia still have inherent race issues.

Weren't Everton conspicuous by the lack of black players for years ?

Anyway, good that the World is changing, clearly for the better.
It will never be 100% nothing ever is.
I've spent considerable time in India where the class system is still as inherent as it ever was, despite their governments denials. And that is just as damaging and oppressive as racism, which they also have - think Pakistan !

Anyway, good luck mate.

I still feel 1 racist word does not make someone a fully fledged racist, BUT the odious Terry CANNOT be allowed to be England Captain if found guilty.

[QPRDave]

Van.
I have tried to explain before they way our planet has evolved the white race has been the master race for most of it therefore someone calling you a white **** the only thing you will be upset about is the word **** as being white makes you a better person than being black or asian and we all have that feeling deep inside us some deeper than others. Reason is our fathers and their fathers and so on believed it only in the last 15 years are people starting to change.

The fact that the colour of our skin depended on weather one could own a house go to school or even live at times over the last 2 generations is why people get upset if you put the word black in front of the word ****.

As for Welsh Qprdave, they are welshman the same as Englishman and scotsman I can't for the life of me believe anybody could think that is racist. #### is a slang word for a American short for ####ee not a derogatory term like #### has become it is not used as a short for Pakistain but Paddy is offensive.

Think about Australia they call us Pommy *******s does it bother us I would say not really mainly cos we have not been their slaves or oppressed by them.

What about if we call them Taff,or Jock ? Is that not derogatory

[QPRDave]

agree,the pc brigade have taken racism to a new level ,i mean the blackboard has become the whiteboard.my view on it is that everyones there to have the mick taken out of them regardless of colour or religion.seems that our colonial cousins work the pc brigade for an easy life

Careful with Mick mate Irish an all that!

[Filiranger]

Lets all agree that oriental women have the best nipples

Agree ;)

[LoftusRoadLad]

What is this thread ? 6 pages !