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  • #16
    Originally posted by GaxZE View Post
    needs to lose some weight going by the newcastle game.

    he has a chance now DJ is out. mackie up top and puncheon comes in to add support to wings.
    You are aware we are playing Chelsea and not Chesterfield???

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    • #17
      Originally posted by SammyKojoe View Post
      You are aware we are playing Chelsea and not Chesterfield???
      You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Jamie View Post
        Not even close to being good enough.

        Desperation signing when Bellamy chose Liverpool and scandalous that he's in the 25 over Ephraim.
        Agreed.

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        • #19
          To suggest that Puncheon is a PL standard player because he scored is madness. Marlin Harewood scored twice as many as him and we sure as **** wouldn't want him near our side. Blackpool were the 8th top scoters last season. Shaun Derry would've got a couple ATAF.

          If were going to go down the route of using statistics to show a players ability, Ephraim has 76 CCC appearances & 1 PL appearance. Puncheon has 78 L2 appearances, 81 L1 appearances, 7 CCC appearances and 11 PL appearances.

          Neither is good enough for this level. One is a hardworking, honest but limited player. The other is an overweight, 'bad man' on loan from Southampton's youth team.

          January 1st, Puncheon goes back to Saints youth and Warnock can sign a decent winger.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by MattyRangers View Post
            Ephraim is pony. Like the bloke, seems a good pro, but a poor footballer. A simple comparison of last season stats, in black and white for all to see, says it all:

            Hogan: 3 goals in 29 CCC games.

            Punch: 5 goals in 7 CCC games & 3 goals in 11 PL games.

            Now I havent seen him play for us, only seen a game on TV for Blackpool last year, so cant really pass too much judgement on him, but what I saw of him he looked 50 times the player Hogan is.

            Also, NW wanted him for a long time over the summer and deemed him good enough to bring in and name in the 25 over Hogan and, I for 1, have faith in Warnock's judgement of players he sees train everyday over forum posters assumptions, usually based purely on the fact he wasnt wanted by Soton for whatever reason.

            Until I see him play in an Rs shirt, I will reserve my judgement, but until then I would much rather see him play than Hogan
            .

            You see the obvious problem and failing of people like you and I Matty is that we simply don't have the ability to judge a players talent and suitability without watching him play a few times first.
            There must be a school we can go to or something, where we can learn to judge ability without any evidence..............until then we will just have to defer to the experts who are all undoubtedly right.

            A player that has been with us for a few seasons and has flattered to deceive time and again is worthy of a place in the squad over a player who is yet to have the chance to show one way or another whether he is worthy.....................now let me think.....................based on what we've seen in the past, one will fail to achieve and the other may do or may not. With the limited time and options available in the summer window he was brought in because Warnock felt he was a better option than one that has failed ever to impress so I go with the manager, at least until I get my degree from the school of pre-judgment that so many others seem to have attended
            #standuptocancer
            #inyourfacecancer

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            • #21
              Seeing as QPR can't seem to score goals, I don't see how Puncheon could do any worse.

              Taarabt and Bothroyd have yet to score, Helguson scored with a cross, but missed a heading chance from 4 yards out.

              He has a bit of pace and has scored at this level before, so why not give Puncheon a game or two, especially now that Campbell will be out until late Dec or January?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by SammyKojoe View Post
                You are aware we are playing Chelsea and not Chesterfield???
                are you aware im not saying start puncheon? we have a squad.. rotations will happen. merely saying that DJ's injury has helped puncheons slim chances....
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                Lovejoy: "No?!"
                Soldier: "GOD DAMNIT THAT GUYS GOOD!"

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                • #23
                  If he could do that on Sunday !

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by MattyRangers View Post
                    Ephraim is pony. Like the bloke, seems a good pro, but a poor footballer. A simple comparison of last season stats, in black and white for all to see, says it all:

                    Hogan: 3 goals in 29 CCC games.

                    Punch: 5 goals in 7 CCC games & 3 goals in 11 PL games.

                    Now I havent seen him play for us, only seen a game on TV for Blackpool last year, so cant really pass too much judgement on him, but what I saw of him he looked 50 times the player Hogan is.

                    Also, NW wanted him for a long time over the summer and deemed him good enough to bring in and name in the 25 over Hogan and, I for 1, have faith in Warnock's judgement of players he sees train everyday over forum posters assumptions, usually based purely on the fact he wasnt wanted by Soton for whatever reason.

                    Until I see him play in an Rs shirt, I will reserve my judgement, but until then I would much rather see him play than Hogan.
                    I'm a massive fan of Hogan's, such a natural footballer and he's far from pony mate (3 goals for him today and one of our best players in the first few months of the unbeaten run in the Championship last season, also by far our best player in pre-season this year too)
                    Under Les Ferdinand:
                    Luke Freeman, top assists in the league: 4million
                    Alex Smithies, great goalie for this club: 3,5million
                    Charlie Austin, 19 Premier League goals: 4million
                    Jack Robinson: Contract ran out, left for free
                    And many more mistakes

                    LES FERDINAND, IT'S TIME TO GO

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                    • #25
                      Hogan is not pony, but his problem is he is not striker and when used out wide, he struggles to get past a defender or cross a ball. Decent player but the PL is out of his league.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by paulmason View Post
                        Hogan is not pony, but his problem is he is not striker and when used out wide, he struggles to get past a defender or cross a ball. Decent player but the PL is out of his league.
                        Probably about right tbf, I was being a tad harsh on him! Could do a decent job with a side in the CCC.
                        You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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                        • #27
                          I'm wondering whether NW may change his mind in Jan and swap things around abit and give Hogan a place in the 25

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                          • #28
                            Also think one of the centre mids has got to drop out,and for me Tommy to start on the left.Puncheon on the bench,for option of pace late on wouldn't hurt

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by paulmason View Post
                              Buzz wont get in out first team which is also a fact, but it does not mean he is not good enough, it is because NW does not like / rate him. The same I suggest is true for Puncheon at Southampton with Adkins.

                              So Adkins has managed both Scunny AND Southampton?
                              I just wonder?
                              If so he is indeed an up and coming gaffer.
                              QPR
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                              • #30
                                Clive walkers got more chance
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