Originally posted by SullivanQPR
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I'd like to add to Brightons post, which I agree with by the way. Every word.
Firstly, I saw the post in question when it first came up. So no excuses about "the mods" not seeing it are needed from anyone. Including Pete. I don't need to be defended by Pete on that one. I saw it, and didn't delete it. In the absence of a time travel machine, I saw no reason to censor it. It could have been a load of b*ll*cks - with respect to Ric-Roc, posts like that usually are.
I didn't delete it. It didn't even cross my mind. Because it was just another rumour that you get on here, almost daily.
Are we supposed to delete every thread that MIGHT be true, and MIGHT be used by the opposition manager to gain an advantage for the upcoming game?!
There are enough digs on here from a few people about over-moderating and censorship, so it's not taken lightly.
All this cr*p about "the mods" on here rallying around Pete and defending our master - more rubbish.
He'd be the first to admit that he is getting his nuts chewed off over all this in the Staff Area. He should NOT have given QPR FC any kind of email address, or contact details. End of. He made a mistake there, I'm sure he knows that now. In hindsight.
I hope he's apologized properly and privately to Ric-Roc for his error, and I think that's all Ric wants. Everyone makes mistakes.
But I will say this in his defence - I'm sure Pete didn't want this to happen, or deliberately stitch Ric-roc up. No way.
If he'd have thought for one second that any info he gave to QPR would have been used in the way it was used, he'd have refused. I'd imagine he thought the club would send a private email to Ric-roc, simply asking him to refrain, and asking him his "source".
I say "I'd imagine", because I've never met Pete, spoken to him, or even emailed him. If I walked past Pete in the street, he wouldn't recognise me. So he is not a "mate", and I'm certainly not one of his "cronies".
I think GP is an embarrassing clown, and Pete isn't very good at this keyboard lark. Good on the radio, and thought the videos were very good. I think he should concentrate on that. My PERSONAL opinion.
There, I've said it.
That's probably the end of me as a mod on here. I'm not sure I want to carry on anyway.
BUT I think he and Ric-Roc have been put in the firing line, and put in a very awkward position by whoever decided to publish Ric-Rocs email address on the official site. A stupid thing to do, and pretty vindictive as well from "professionals" who should know better.
Warnock?? Surely we can excuse him a bit?
He shouldn't go around showboating to the media by trying to incite "real fans" to abuse a "fake fan". Ric-Roc is not a fake fan, and doesn't deserve all this. But Warnock is an emotional man, and doesn't really have much time for online media. He clearly hates Twitter, and all the hype and ill-informed cr*p that is spouted on forums that often influence fans and even a few players. He's "Old School".I'm beginning to agree with him, if I'm honest. So much stuff that is typed on forums and twitter is vindictive and cheap. It's often agenda driven, and helps nobody. Certainly not Warnock in his job.
Even though it had f*** all to do with me, or ANY other "mod", I would like to apologize to Ric-Roc and Neil Warnock for any mistakes anybody attached to this site has made over the weekend, however unintended it was.
But I think the people who run QPR's "media dept" need to also have a long look at themselves in the mirror and ask themselves if they have advised Neil Warnock well, or made QPR FC look pretty stupid and vindictive in the eyes of many of their own paying fans, again.
If people want to sling petrol on this for days on end, that's up to them. That's the internet for you. Fill your boots.
But once again, sorry.
Firstly, I saw the post in question when it first came up. So no excuses about "the mods" not seeing it are needed from anyone. Including Pete. I don't need to be defended by Pete on that one. I saw it, and didn't delete it. In the absence of a time travel machine, I saw no reason to censor it. It could have been a load of b*ll*cks - with respect to Ric-Roc, posts like that usually are.
I didn't delete it. It didn't even cross my mind. Because it was just another rumour that you get on here, almost daily.
Are we supposed to delete every thread that MIGHT be true, and MIGHT be used by the opposition manager to gain an advantage for the upcoming game?!
There are enough digs on here from a few people about over-moderating and censorship, so it's not taken lightly.
All this cr*p about "the mods" on here rallying around Pete and defending our master - more rubbish.
He'd be the first to admit that he is getting his nuts chewed off over all this in the Staff Area. He should NOT have given QPR FC any kind of email address, or contact details. End of. He made a mistake there, I'm sure he knows that now. In hindsight.
I hope he's apologized properly and privately to Ric-Roc for his error, and I think that's all Ric wants. Everyone makes mistakes.
But I will say this in his defence - I'm sure Pete didn't want this to happen, or deliberately stitch Ric-roc up. No way.
If he'd have thought for one second that any info he gave to QPR would have been used in the way it was used, he'd have refused. I'd imagine he thought the club would send a private email to Ric-roc, simply asking him to refrain, and asking him his "source".
I say "I'd imagine", because I've never met Pete, spoken to him, or even emailed him. If I walked past Pete in the street, he wouldn't recognise me. So he is not a "mate", and I'm certainly not one of his "cronies".
I think GP is an embarrassing clown, and Pete isn't very good at this keyboard lark. Good on the radio, and thought the videos were very good. I think he should concentrate on that. My PERSONAL opinion.
There, I've said it.
That's probably the end of me as a mod on here. I'm not sure I want to carry on anyway.
BUT I think he and Ric-Roc have been put in the firing line, and put in a very awkward position by whoever decided to publish Ric-Rocs email address on the official site. A stupid thing to do, and pretty vindictive as well from "professionals" who should know better.
Warnock?? Surely we can excuse him a bit?
He shouldn't go around showboating to the media by trying to incite "real fans" to abuse a "fake fan". Ric-Roc is not a fake fan, and doesn't deserve all this. But Warnock is an emotional man, and doesn't really have much time for online media. He clearly hates Twitter, and all the hype and ill-informed cr*p that is spouted on forums that often influence fans and even a few players. He's "Old School".I'm beginning to agree with him, if I'm honest. So much stuff that is typed on forums and twitter is vindictive and cheap. It's often agenda driven, and helps nobody. Certainly not Warnock in his job.
Even though it had f*** all to do with me, or ANY other "mod", I would like to apologize to Ric-Roc and Neil Warnock for any mistakes anybody attached to this site has made over the weekend, however unintended it was.
But I think the people who run QPR's "media dept" need to also have a long look at themselves in the mirror and ask themselves if they have advised Neil Warnock well, or made QPR FC look pretty stupid and vindictive in the eyes of many of their own paying fans, again.
If people want to sling petrol on this for days on end, that's up to them. That's the internet for you. Fill your boots.
But once again, sorry.
Well said. This whole matter is a culture clash really.
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