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World class to me is a player who could walk into any team in the world.
Messi
Rooney
Aguero
Xavi & Iniesta
Ronaldo
Borrowdale
To name but a few...Comment
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Agree with all the above mate exept Borrowdale.Originally posted by Ric-Roc View Post
IMO, yes eh could walk into most sides, but not all. For example, Chelski have Cashley, Real have Marcelo & Man Utd have Evra. He wouldnt get into any of these sides. IMO, he should be classed as "top quality" but not quite "world class".You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.Comment
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Borrowdale is the most enigmantic player i have never seenComment
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Matty, I agree with most of your posts, and this one in principal.... but Valdes....????Originally posted by MattyRangers View Post
"World class", for me, should only be used for the top few players in each position, ie Valdes, Buffon, Vidic, Sergio Ramo, Messi, Xavi, Fabregas, Villa, Rooney etc.
He is anything but World Class and i can think of numerous keepers i'd have in front of him. He is just very lucky to play for a great side, and when pressured more a few years ago he was often a bit of a liability. Isn't he 3rd choice for Spain behind Casilles and Reyna......Comment
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Im unsure about the Spainish keeping pecking order mate tbh, but IMO, Valdes alot better than Reina. Casillas is quality though tbf, posted my last comment without thinking into it too much lolOriginally posted by Del View Post
The bolded comment in your above quote is probs alot to do with this, but he has won the "Zamora Trophy" in Spain (which is the keeper with the lowest goals conceeded per game ratio) for 3 years running now and only conceeded 16 goals last year in the league (half that of Casillas!). But as you say, this is probably alot to do with the team he has in front of him. Dont get to see him too much so I just went by facts, probably are better keepers out there, he just isntantly came to mind when I was thinking on he spot of top keepers.You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.Comment
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Fair play mate. But yeah that award, if simply based on goals conceeded has everything to do with the fact most teams don't even get the ball against them, let alone have shots on goal....Originally posted by MattyRangers View PostComment
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I've even heard that some people vote for Boris Johnson because they consider him a 'LEGEND'. A few gaffes on Have I Got News for You and a few sexual indiscretions is all it takes these days.Originally posted by Rieger View PostWRITING ABOUT QPR AND OTHER NONSENSE:
http://thisismyengland.blogspot.com/Comment
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Changing subject slightly but I've seen Barca a few times recently and it really is unreal how good they are.Originally posted by Del View Post
Messi alone's stats this season: played 8, scored 9, assisted 9.... Directly involved in 18 goals in 8 matches
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I dnt think England has any world class player.. some of you think rooney the best player, but in my opinion he never was a world class .. he even was the flop of last world cup. in my opinion only gerrard can come close to world class.Comment
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Agree with you mate,except I'm really not sure that Rooney is in the same class as the others,what do you think about Modric,is he world class?Originally posted by Ric-Roc View PostComment
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He is incredible and will prove to be the best ever imo, but some people won't accept that unless he delivers for Argentina, which i think is a slightly flawed argument these days considering the strength of the Champions league.Originally posted by MattyRangers View PostMessi alone's stats this season: played 8, scored 9, assisted 9.... Directly involved in 18 goals in 8 matches
The stats he has in his career so far are mind blowing, and when you consider he's still only about 12 years old it's even more amazing.
Most compare with Maradona for obvious reasons, but he only really blew people away in 86 when he was 25. Yes he was obviously amazing before then, but it was only then that everyone took note and consiered him head and shoulders above anyone else.... Messi was only recently turned 24 and he's been the best for years now..Comment
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Originally posted by Del View Post Word for word mate.
He is, IMO, incredible and theres no doubt that if he can keep it up for a few more years he will be the best ever.
The whole "delivering for Argentina" arguement is, IMO, total cr4p. As you say, the quality of oppo he faces for Barca in the CL (in which he scored 12 goals in 13 games last year!) is by far above that he faces in the likes of Peru, Paraguay etc in the Copa America games and South America section World Cup qualifiers.
Even saying that, he has scored 17 and assisted 20 in 61 games for Argentina so hardly been **** poor.
Also, George Best hardly delivered on the international stage yet people still insist he is a great.
Messi's Barca stats between the ages of 21 and 24:
Played 167, scored 147 and assisted 62...
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When his head's right, as it is currently, Rooney is without question World Class and any side in the world would love to have him make no mistake of it.Originally posted by QPRDave View Post
He can do everything, and a lot more than some you list. Not sure how you can question Rooney, then ask about Modric. He's not for me. A very good player, yes, but nowhere near World Class. World class players in that sort of position should not only create, but score, and he doesn't get anywhere near enough goals.... think Messi, Fabregas, Scholes, Nedved, Bergkamp, Zidane etc etcComment
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really? All opinions i spose we all different 1s but, in mine, Rooney (like him or not) is a top top player and, without doubt, world class.Originally posted by QPRDave View Post
I wouldnt say Modric is, Id say he is a very very good player, but not quite world class IMO.You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.Comment
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