Case for a new stadium/Swansea comparison

[MattyRangers]

That's the price of the penalty box in West London covered then....how much for the rest of the pitch and then the ground.....or we could move to a #### heap in Wales

[Nodge70]

Off course you don't, you're a teenager probably have no proper attachment to the area and want to boast to you're mates about our shiny new stadium.

I've been coming 38 years now (living very locally for the first 27 of those) and I'd have no problem moving away from LR.

Nice and traditional sure but it's old and tired and restricting the potential for growth.

Fear of change is a bad thing.

[Gerryhatrick]

Totally agree with silvercue. The simplistic allocation of the £40m I see on this and other board makes me laugh as well. Conveniently forgetting the existing annual losses plus the debt.

This debt issue is an interesting one. We get a minimum of £40 mill for this year, plus parachute payments in the future etc, etc, and against this we spend £1.25 mill on DJ, and it's suggested that this is because of debt and losses.

So lets say hypothetically that we didn't win promotion, and we didn't get this £90 mill windfall from Prem/Sky, what would of happened to us if we were still in the championship and not awarded this fortune? Administration? Seems absurb that this amount of money is written off so quickly, and I for one would love to know what the clubs' plans are for it, but I won't hold my breath, they tell us nothing these days.

[qprjames]

Off course you don't, you're a teenager probably have no proper attachment to the area and want to boast to you're mates about our shiny new stadium.

Dont bu11shit me around 'mate'

Ive been going to QPR for 18 years and had a season ticket for 10 of them. My Grandad, Dad and myself have always supported QPR and my Grandad lived outside the stadium so your talking complete crap quite frankly. You need to get off your high horse and realise other people have an opinion as well and you haven't got some god-like status where your opinion is always right.

I've been coming 38 years now (living very locally for the first 27 of those) and I'd have no problem moving away from LR.

Nice and traditional sure but it's old and tired and restricting the potential for growth.

Fear of change is a bad thing.

Spot on

[Olly]

Did they not have to spend millions on promotion bonuses that T&C didn't know about?

[Gerryhatrick]

We are in london though,in the whole of wales there is only four proper teams to chose from so easier to gain support. Brighton dont have much competition same with reading to an extent.

We would be like coventry, end of the day forget what the stadium is like/prices/whos in charge etc we couldnt sell out our first game in the premier league after 15 years. We are a small team with a small fanbase.

Sorry mate, don't agree with this at all. In terms of catchment area, or population within a certain distance of the stadiums, even allowing for the competition, I think people don't go to LR due to being a sad old scruffy facility to watch good football in, and clubs like the mentioned Brighton, Reading and Swansea are certain proof that a modern stadium suits the modern world, probably due to the 'americanisation' of sports arena's. Many people want new, bright, and clean, or they just won't go.

[Factamondo]

We are in london though,in the whole of wales there is only four proper teams to chose from so easier to gain support. Brighton dont have much competition same with reading to an extent.

We would be like coventry, end of the day forget what the stadium is like/prices/whos in charge etc we couldnt sell out our first game in the premier league after 15 years. We are a small team with a small fanbase.

and that casual old son is a nailed on factamondo!!!

[W12_Ranger]

Dont bu11shit me around 'mate'

Ive been going to QPR for 18 years and had a season ticket for 10 of them. My Grandad, Dad and myself have always supported QPR and my Grandad lived outside the stadium so your talking complete crap quite frankly. You need to get off your high horse and realise other people have an opinion as well and you haven't got some god-like status where your opinion is always right.

So basically I was right

So your Grandad 2 generations ago had an attachment with the area not you...I doubt you could give a **** whether the ground was in Surrey or Hillingdon as your always banging on about it.

Been going 18 years have ya...how old are you again

[MattyRangers]

I've been coming 38 years now (living very locally for the first 27 of those) and I'd have no problem moving away from LR.

Nice and traditional sure but it's old and tired and restricting the potential for growth.

Fear of change is a bad thing.

Great post Nodge.

[qprjames]

So basically I was right

So your Grandad 2 generations ago had an attachment with the area not you...I doubt you could give a **** whether the ground was in Surrey or Hillingdon as your always banging on about it.

Been going 18 years have ya...how old are you again

What world do you live on?

Have a look on here at locations, I'd say 75% of QPR fans no longer live in the local area but instead commute to games.

I love W12, but the fact is, if we can't afford to stay there at the same time as growing as a club then we need to move on. And yes I would like to stay as close as possible to our current location but don't think it will be the worst thing in the world if we were to move slightly out of central London where there is a larger untapped fanbase. A new complex with an Academy, new training facilities and a new stadium along the A40 would be great. Would be a massive boost for the club. But as Nodge says, I guess some people are too scared of change....

[MattyRangers]

So basically I was right

So your Grandad 2 generations ago had an attachment with the area not you...I doubt you could give a **** whether the ground was in Surrey or Hillingdon as your always banging on about it.

Been going 18 years have ya...how old are you again

W12 mate honestly wheres the need in such posts? Why does it matter where a rangers fan lives or how old they are? I am 20 myself, always been a ranger since i can remember, my dad made sure of that (and as with James, he grew up down the road from LR), although i live about 35mins away from w12, I still have an attachment to w12 as its the home of us, QPR. The weekly trips there, wont ever forget them and i wouldnt want to move away. BUT, should that be the only possible way to expand in years to come, i would rather mvoe abit up the road and expand than be stuck as we are in w12. As Nodge said, a fear of change is a bad thing.

You need abe abit more accepting of other peopes views and opinions pal.

[superhoop67]

What world do you live on?

Have a look on here at locations, I'd say 75% of QPR fans no longer live in the local area but instead commute to games.

I love W12, but the fact is, if we can't afford to stay there at the same time as growing as a club then we need to move on. And yes I would like to stay as close as possible to our current location but don't think it will be the worst thing in the world if we were to move slightly out of central London where there is a larger untapped fanbase. A new complex with an Academy, new training facilities and a new stadium along the A40 would be great. Would be a massive boost for the club. But as Nodge says, I guess some people are too scared of change....

how much and where , remember we've just splashed out £1.25 on DJ

[80sCasual]

and that casual old son is a nailed on factamondo!!!

Only enough room for one true cas on here, me old mucker.

[Nodge70]

Coventry are a bad example purely due to the local authority completely naffing up the transportation and planning situation. Refused all applications for match day parking facilities and then refused to provide even a cursory match day shuttle service from the city centre or rail station.

Every other new ground has increased capacity and footfall substantially (Sunderland, Arsenal, Reading, Southampton, Leicester, Swansea, Cardiff, Brighton, Man City, Shrewsbury, Chesterfield) and if you increase your footfall, you increase your ancilliary commercial income too.

[qprjames]

W12 mate honestly wheres the need in such posts? Why does it matter where a rangers fan lives or how old they are? I am 20 myself, always been a ranger since i can remember, my dad made sure of that (and as with James, he grew up down the road from LR), although i live about 35mins away from w12, I still have an attachment to w12 as its the home of us, QPR. The weekly trips there, wont ever forget them and i wouldnt want to move away. BUT, should that be the only possible way to expand in years to come, i would rather mvoe abit up the road and expand than be stuck as we are in w12. As Nodge said, a fear of change is a bad thing.

You need abe abit more accepting of other peopes views and opinions pal.

Can't disagree with that mate