Tony Fernandes

[ProtestR]

"As I also understand it" aka "As I've been told to say"

[UpperP]

NO BS

I have heard it from the horses mouth that Bernie is, erm, "grooming", Flavio to take over from him in F1. Specifically it will be Agag as the main money man and Flavio as the "face" as such.

People forget about Agag...he is a very very powerful man (check out his and tony blairs history) and is still very much involved in QPR.

Ignore the FACTS (ahem) re ownership. As i said, GP owns 10% of the club, but he can contractualy only sell those to Flavio as i understand it.

As I also understand it, due to the ******** from the Mittals, Flavio and Bernie would never sell to the mittals...and seriously regret their involvement.

So you are in direct contact with BE? Strange.

[PeterG]

Scott I own more of QPR than GP according to the register
are you saying GP has a share in sarita capital which accounts for his 10% ownership of QPR?

[QPR1976]

Roar - No not drunk, whatever the split Tango & Cash own between 66-67% of QPR - Fact
Mittals own 33% - Fact

So if TF buys 20% from T&C, and 'gets together with LM, potentially that makes T&C minority shareholders. Thats all I was suggesting.

Scott/Indiana - it depends on which of the horses mouths you heard it from (Tango or Cash) also you'd be a fool to believe 100% what either (and especially Tango) of them say.
A) they change their minds to suit every day
B) why would they entrust you with such insight ?

And if GP can only sell his ficticious 10% to Tango, effectively, they are Tango's in all but name.

[leewads]

Good work Minty

So if Bernie sells 10% he's left with 5.5% roughly.
If Flav sells 10% he's left with 40.5% roughly.
Tony F has 20%
Mittal has 33%
GP has none !

I bet there's a condition in Tony F's 20% that he cannot sell to Mittal without giving Tango 1st refusal (at cost or reduced price)
Otherwise a merger or buyout of TF & LM's stakes would have a controlling stake.

This is starting to get VERY messy.

And that's why I said on the first thread now sell to Mittal he would gain control

[MYU]

The bit I don't understand is if "Bernie & Flavio" wanted out that badly, why not sell to the Mittals and they can get on with there lives and move on.

100m... they know they'll never get that price.

[rangersroar]

Roar - No not drunk, whatever the split Tango & Cash own between 66-67% of QPR - Fact
Mittals own 33% - Fact

So if TF buys 20% from T&C, and 'gets together with LM, potentially that makes T&C minority shareholders. Thats all I was suggesting.

Scott/Indiana - it depends on which of the horses mouths you heard it from (Tango or Cash) also you'd be a fool to believe 100% what either (and especially Tango) of them say.
A) they change their minds to suit every day
B) why would they entrust you with such insight ?

And if GP can only sell his ficticious 10% to Tango, effectively, they are Tango's in all but name.

That's not what you said at all. You said that Flavio has a bigger stake in QPR than Bernie does. Go back and read that particular post that I quoted.
You said that if Bernie sells 10% he will be left with 5.5%, and if Flavio sells 10% he will be left with 40.5%, and that is incorrect.

[Olly]

The italian boutique project is still on then, flav still seems determined to bring some eyetie players in, and probably a manager too.

[Connell10]

The sun will never shine as long as flabio is around! We should all hound the #### out of club! I reckon all this take over talk is bull shite started by T&C so they dont have to spend much on players!

[robloft]

QPR Holdings top 20 shareholdings

Sarita capital investments inc. 1,775,277,398 ordinary gbp 0.01
sarita capital investments inc 1,561,102,383 ordinary gbp 0.01
sea dream limited 1,022,854,310 ordinary gbp 0.01
sea dream ltd 646,995,686 ordinary gbp 0.01
mr bernard charles ecclestone 485,050,829 ordinary gbp 0.01
mr flavio briatore 161,683,609 ordinary gbp 0.01
mr paul grant 1,940,838 ordinary gbp 0.01
qpr 1st supporters society ltd 87,717 ordinary gbp 0.01
miss zoe sonia colbourn 8,080 ordinary gbp 0.01
mrs mary rose higgins 7,692 ordinary gbp 0.01
mr mark schaffer 3,884 ordinary gbp 0.01
mr luke thoma barrs 3,300 ordinary gbp 0.01
mrs nicola denise hurley 3,000 ordinary gbp 0.01
dr david stephen scott 2,500 ordinary gbp 0.01
omx securities nominees ltd 2,175 ordinary gbp 0.01
mr alan george jack 1,154 ordinary gbp 0.01
mr gareth evans 1,150 ordinary gbp 0.01
mr colin darrell ballard 1,125 ordinary gbp 0.01
mr david brian green 1,000 ordinary gbp 0.01
mr brian cyril budd 600 ordinary gbp 0.01

[PeterG]

robloft where did you get that list from
I have 3000 1 x 500 + 1 x 2500

[robloft]

On a site called creditsafe UK we use it at work, it interrogates the latest filed accounts, annual returns etc for companies.

[iheartwegerle]

robloft where did you get that list from
I have 3000 1 x 500 + 1 x 2500

Then you must be Nicola Denise Hurley

How you doin......

[PeterG]

LOL I am doing fine Joey

Robloft ok thanks, I know credit safe I am sure though there are other individuals that have more that 2/3k unless they sold them back to bernie when they put out the offer

[Minty]

Sarita capital investments inc. 1,775,277,398 ordinary gbp 0.01
sarita capital investments inc 1,561,102,383 ordinary gbp 0.01
sea dream limited 1,022,854,310 ordinary gbp 0.01
sea dream ltd 646,995,686 ordinary gbp 0.01
mr bernard charles ecclestone 485,050,829 ordinary gbp 0.01
mr flavio briatore 161,683,609 ordinary gbp 0.01
mr paul grant 1,940,838 ordinary gbp 0.01
qpr 1st supporters society ltd 87,717 ordinary gbp 0.01
miss zoe sonia colbourn 8,080 ordinary gbp 0.01
mrs mary rose higgins 7,692 ordinary gbp 0.01
mr mark schaffer 3,884 ordinary gbp 0.01
mr luke thoma barrs 3,300 ordinary gbp 0.01
mrs nicola denise hurley 3,000 ordinary gbp 0.01
dr david stephen scott 2,500 ordinary gbp 0.01
omx securities nominees ltd 2,175 ordinary gbp 0.01
mr alan george jack 1,154 ordinary gbp 0.01
mr gareth evans 1,150 ordinary gbp 0.01
mr colin darrell ballard 1,125 ordinary gbp 0.01
mr david brian green 1,000 ordinary gbp 0.01
mr brian cyril budd 600 ordinary gbp 0.01

Sooooo.......my earlier post was factual.

I always find it amazing that people don't can simply bypass a significant piece of information that is presented to them. QPR Holdings is a Ltd company, and as such its accounts and shareholding information is available for public inspection. The data that I found is the most up-to-date data regardng QPR Holding's share distribution that can be found on the web. And this stuff has to be updated with Companies House very quickly. It dates from March 2011.

Why, oh why don't people read and understand, rather than continue believing their own silly notions/what they've heard, etc.????

Not referrring to you RobLoft, by the way. Your post just confirms that my earlier post was probably correct. It's all the other numpties who have heard "67% this and that" and believe it, despite there never being anything official on that.

The same happened with the Faurlin transfer fee......people just couldn't grasp the simple English of 'a deal worth up to'.

I give up! If anyone can show some evidence of Bernie's 67%, then I'll accept it graciously.

http://www.investegate.co.uk/article.aspx?id=201103181105422132D

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