Matt Connolly

[Mellowhoop]

Exactly if you pay the money then enjoy it. Loud and proud. Let's do our bit.

[winalotto]

Anyone "can play" in the premier league, it's how well you play, evatt was part of a team which shipped more goals than any other and got relegated.

Connolly will be a back up player at best and that's on the basis that Keith curle pulls him aside pre season, they lauch 150 balls in the air and ask him to head each one WITHOUT it bouncing.. Other than that he will get raped.

Can you tell me who many teams launch the ball straight down the middle in the prem?? Not that many i would suggest, he is our best ball playing centre back, and with a strong dominant partner could be a real success.

[MattyRangers]

Can you tell me who many teams launch the ball straight down the middle in the prem?? Not that many i would suggest, he is our best ball playing centre back, and with a strong dominant partner could be a real success.

[Jeffro]

Can you tell me who many teams launch the ball straight down the middle in the prem?? Not that many i would suggest, he is our best ball playing centre back, and with a strong dominant partner could be a real success.

A Defender has to attack a ball and not let it bounce in any level of football.

Whether it be against Barcelona of Barnsley..

Basic defending knowledge, which you learn from 5 years old.

[MattyRangers]

A Defender has to attack a ball and not let it bounce in any level of football.

Whether it be against Barcelona of Barnsley..

Basic defending knowledge, which you learn from 5 years old.

Agreed Jeffro, and cant argue he was poor at this last eyar (understatement I know!), but as somebody mentioned earlier, I think NW and the coaches wil be well aware of this and ensure hes spent hours upon hours working on this over pre-season. I hope anyway!!!

[winalotto]

A Defender has to attack a ball and not let it bounce in any level of football.

Whether it be against Barcelona of Barnsley..

Basic defending knowledge, which you learn from 5 years old.

Mate dont show yourself up, there are different ways of playing football, and are different ways to defend. Would you say Rio Ferdinand attacks the ball? If your defending against say a Stoke City then be prepared to have a sore fore head, but in the prem league danger comes from out wide and balls played up to feet. Connolly reads the game quite well and is comfortable in possession, or do you think all centre backs should be taught from a very young age(say 5) to head the ball and toe punt it 40 yards down the park??

[kingy10]

Talking out of your bum as usual. Remind me...did Leicester score? Did we win? Wagon had one decent opportunity and chuffed it.

What's that got to do with it. Did you watch the game? Connolly literally gave him 3 clear cut chances. Anyway that is only one game. General view from me is that he is too weak.

We shall see.

[kingy10]

Did you see the Hull away game, worst performance of a player I have ever seen, but it doesn't mean I would not play Tarrabt again, as he would be one of the first name on the sheet if he was fit. Its amazing who some people are cut slack and some are not.

Fair point but Tarrabt won us the league. Can't remember Connolly being man of the match very often?

[kingy10]

WHU did want Dyer, he left as he had offers from more than 1 prem club.

Who and how do you know?

If WHU wanted him how many games did he play last year?

[kingy10]

So according to that we only had five players last season who were good or very good Championship players. Funny we walked away with the league then. I absolutely agree the squad as it stands has major flaws and desperately needs investment but you don't do your argument any favours by exaggerating the weakness of the existing players. It also doesn't show much gratitude for their achievements last season.

I would say yes that is the case. 5 good/very good championship players and one outstanding championship player that won Championship player of the season.

We also had the best team spirit and manager who has a massive hunger to win, Derry and Hill personified this spirit in the team and that is why we won the league.

These players/spirit will not be enough when you are playing against world class players week in week out. Which is why we desperate need to get some proven quality in. Bothroyd is a start. Cambell again is an improvement but we need to get some quality at the back. A decent leader Tony Adams type centre half. I look at our back four and there are no leaders, Hill possibly.

[Jeffro]

Mate dont show yourself up, there are different ways of playing football, and are different ways to defend. Would you say Rio Ferdinand attacks the ball? If your defending against say a Stoke City then be prepared to have a sore fore head, but in the prem league danger comes from out wide and balls played up to feet. Connolly reads the game quite well and is comfortable in possession, or do you think all centre backs should be taught from a very young age(say 5) to head the ball and toe punt it 40 yards down the park??

Who mentioned toe punting it.. ok taking your example into account.

For every Man utd there is 2 or 3 stoke's, Wolves, Boltons who play with a big target man.

So even against United where the threat is from the wings and balls into feet; well Connolly

1) Isnt fast
2) Isnt strong
3) Doesnt man mark well

Therefore he is probably even more flawed against a footballing side.

You're trying to convince me that an average championship defender is Premiership quality, but i aint having it.

Fitz Hall will be the best Defender we have in the Prem, fitness being good.

[Jeffro]

Who and how do you know?

If WHU wanted him how many games did he play last year?

17 i believe, and Dyer himself in his interview said he has offers from 2/3 prem clubs.
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[kingy10]

Kingy why do you bother following a team if all youre going to do is moan? Not digging at ya, I do wanna know why you do? If, for example, we had a decent season and finished, day 15th, would you be happy or still have a few moans? Because i reckon 99% of fans would be over the moon with such a finish and just wanted your take on it

Because I'm desperate for us to do well. Read the Daily Mail article yesterday and that sums up exactly how I feel. Agreed with every single part of it. Especially the bit about the Italian Moped salesmen.

If we didn't have the potential I would not be moaning and would be happy with scraping 17th. With the 2nd richest owners in WORLD football and watching Warnock scrape around for waifs and strays, whilst we the fans are asked to pay double for the privilege, surely is worth a moan! We haven't even got a kit FFS.

[kingy10]

hence the point of my original question to kingy, we have something else which is overloooked that is a team spirit that will help win us a few points
i just find it incredible that we won the championship at a canter and we dont think many are able to step up before a ball is kicked,
i also wonder how many people judging our players against the top 6, ill say it again our staying up nothing to do with how we fare against those , it will be how we fare vs the bottem half,

Agree with all of that.

I'm not comparing our players with top six teams, I just can't seriously be certain of beating anyone with our team at the moment. What are your banker 3 points next season? Norwich and Swansea? Routlege vs Hill, Sinclair vs Orr and Graham vs Connolly???

[Jeffro]

Because I'm desperate for us to do well. Read the Daily Mail article yesterday and that sums up exactly how I feel. Agreed with every single part of it. Especially the bit about the Italian Moped salesmen.

If we didn't have the potential I would not be moaning and would be happy with scraping 17th. With the 2nd richest owners in WORLD football and watching Warnock scrape around for waifs and strays, whilst we the fans are asked to pay double for the privilege, surely is worth a moan! We haven't even got a kit FFS.

That I agree with Kingy