Thought on Fry

[W12_Ranger]

W12 mate i come on here purely for convo with other fans thats all, and yes im slightly optmistic because i want to enjoy our year back in the PL regardless of the ownership issues. Anything wrong with that? It seems that anybody that does as such is ridiculed by the loud mouth pesimists on ehre (ie you) that wont have anybody that doesnt agree with them be heard. Do you not like the fact i disagree with you? What we have are OPINIONS, not FACTS. So how about you learn to have a decent chat/debate on here without getting all feisty eh, anybody would think you'd had a few E numbers htis morning.

Maybe if you didn't drop a smart a.rse comment in with each post you wouldn't be getting the response you are. As Paul said you sound naive, there is very little to be optimistic about at present, bury your head in the sand if you must but please spare the spill someone else who gives a ****.

[MattyRangers]

Maybe if you didn't drop a smart a.rse comment in with each post you wouldn't be getting the response you are. As Paul said you sound naive, there is very little to be optimistic about at present, bury your head in the sand if you must but please spare the spill someone else who gives a ****.

Clearlycant take being on the receiving end of harmless banter. Stay sad big man!

[loftlag]

Matty you do seem a tad naive, How did Barry Fry know the owners would not back Neal then, after he done a deal 6 weeks earlier for the player ? Do you think NW just did not answer his phone calls or did he tell Barry that the deal is of, because the owners did not sanction the move.

Paul you might be right about Bazza but you also have take into account he is a master of how to flog a player for the best price and maybe Bazza thought he could get the best price from QPR

[brightonr]

Maybe if you didn't drop a smart a.rse comment in with each post you wouldn't be getting the response you are. As Paul said you sound naive, there is very little to be optimistic about at present, bury your head in the sand if you must but please spare the spill someone else who gives a ****.

Each post ?

Newish member. Well aware that as such, he hasn't worked out everyone's little peculiarities yet and has stated so on more than one occasion.

Seems to have cracked it with you though.

We're all fed up to say the least mate. Now that is an understatement.

The only thing keeping me from feeling like you sound is the fact that things can only improve. Can't they ?

[paulmason]

Matty you do seem a tad naive, How did Barry Fry know the owners would not back Neal then, after he done a deal 6 weeks earlier for the player ? Do you think NW just did not answer his phone calls or did he tell Barry that the deal is of, because the owners did not sanction the move.

“Then we heard that Neil Warnock was very keen to sign him for QPR. Warnock let it be known that he would sign Craig in the summer even if QPR had been promoted to the Premier League.

“We actually struck a deal with QPR then and it was a great deal for the club. Craig was keen and it looked set to go ahead, but things changed and Warnock told us that his directors could not make the deal happen. http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/s...hton_1_2833302

Divulging sensitive info and grounds for his contract to be terminated like Sousa was ?

[Bigears]

Divulging sensitive info and grounds for his contract to be terminated like Sousa was ?[/QUOTE]

No because if the deal was made 6 weeks before as mentioned and NW couldnt complete it, he would have to give a reason why.

Its not his fault that Fry then shared this with the world. If there is a master of using and manipulating the media without actualy saying anything then NW is the holy master of it. If it is true as they are blocking trnasfers the Bernie and Fav have underestimated NW as he will make sure everyone knows whats going on, and where he can put pressure on then to change it.

As I said NW is a master of manipulating situations like these

[QPR1976]

So what about Fry's accusation last week that "CMS decided NOT to join QPR when NW could not guarantee 100% that he would still be the Manager next season" ?

This week, it's because T&C won't back NW and allow him to make the signings.

What will it be next week, Barry ?

[themodfather]

if warnock has agreed something, without boardroom backing..is he in for a "sousa"??

the first rule of qprfc, is YOU DON'T TALK OF QPRFC....

[W12_Ranger]

Each post ?

Newish member. Well aware that as such, he hasn't worked out everyone's little peculiarities yet and has stated so on more than one occasion.

Seems to have cracked it with you though.

We're all fed up to say the least mate. Now that is an understatement.

The only thing keeping me from feeling like you sound is the fact that things can only improve. Can't they ?

No not really its getting a bit boring listening to these pillocks excited by the thought of getting thumped week in week out at present by the Superstars of the PL. There is absolutely no point if we are not competitive, will things improve though, a lot of damage has been done now in my view and could well take a relegation to sort the mess out. Norwich and Swansea have taken full advantage of the moment, we have failed miserably. I thought we had something to build on, the momentum disappeared over night. Our promotion just seems even more remarkable when we consider what Warnock had to work with. In years to come it won't said that GP or T & C saved the club, it will be Warnock's named mentioned because whatever happens from here on now had we not got promoted it may well have been the beginning of the end for QPR.

Still I'm sure we have lots of fans watching QPR play in the top flight for the first time and that it clearly more important than everything else what is going on. Lets hope these fans are still loud and vocal if we end up back in the Championship after one season.

[indianalondon]

if warnock has agreed something, without boardroom backing..is he in for a "sousa"??

the first rule of qprfc, is YOU DON'T TALK OF QPRFC....

Sousa was a d1ck, Neil aint. If the orange one fired neil..well..there would be a frigging riot

[brightonr]

No not really its getting a bit boring listening to these pillocks excited by the thought of getting thumped week in week out at present by the Superstars of the PL. There is absolutely no point if we are not competitive, will things improve though, a lot of damage has been done now in my view and could well take a relegation to sort the mess out. Norwich and Swansea have taken full advantage of the moment, we have failed miserably. I thought we had something to build on, the momentum disappeared over night. Our promotion just seems even more remarkable when we consider what Warnock had to work with. In years to come it won't said that GP or T & C saved the club, it will be Warnock's named mentioned because whatever happens from here on now had we not got promoted it may well have been the beginning of the end for QPR.

Still I'm sure we have lots of fans watching QPR play in the top flight for the first time and that it clearly more important than everything else what is going on. Lets hope these fans are still loud and vocal if we end up back in the Championship after one season.

I'm finding myself agreeing with mostly everything you post these days. Which is a great shame, not because I want a row, but because things have been allowed to get to this point.

Despite being a Premier League team, almost everything else has turned sour it would appear. Not sure what the answers are though and getting to the stage where I feel like just accepting what will be, will be.

And then I think back on a few things. Like how we were the first Div3 side to win the League Cup. The very first team to win it at Wembley. Possibly the first team to win promotion from the third to first divisions in successive seasons. The fact that despite only finishing second, we were regarded by many as being the best team in the land during 75/76 season. The first club to play on plastic a pitch. I think we were the first club to have a ground enclosed on all 4 sides. Probably the first team to have a manager on the board of directors. That same man, the first man to play for his country at every level of the game, who then went on to captain and manage our club and his country. Five members of one England squad once. Record points total for winning the second division in 82/83? A club that has been well respected by loads of people over the years, despite being just a very small club in West London. And several other great memories as well.

And I start to feel a little more positive all of a sudden. Because the two things that I do know for a fact, is that however bad things may seem now, however frustrated we may all get now and in the immediate future, none of that can ever be taken away from us. And that one day the fat arrogant Italian and the White haired octagenarian dwarf, will no longer be here. Then we can all start to feel good again.