So lets put all the bad stuff down in a little list and maybe.....

[Chalet1882]

.....cross examine the direction the club is heading in based on what has happened in the past few months.

- The club dismissing claims that Lippi is to replace Warnock
- The Faurlin Case - which basically ruined the title run in for many
- Paladini costing the club a £1million fine and remaining in a job
- No parade
- The delay on ST prices
- The club denying Warnocks link to West Ham (can't remember if this happened but throw it in there for now)
- ST prices with no early bird
- Amit walking
- Rumours of bulk selling ticket bundles to oversea tour operators
- The Danny Graham fiasco
- Taarabt's interview (which was brutally honest in my view)
- The club denying Warnock is on the way out (30th of June)
- Not offering Sean Derry a new contract.
- The CMS fiasco
- The Barry Fry claims about our owners
- No kit
- No new sponsor
- Walk up prices
- Superhoop rip off extra
- Falsifying (alledgiedly) the OSC Meeting Minutes


Anything else?

HERES MINE

QPR BEFORE YOUR LIST - CHAMPIONSHIP

NOW - PREMIERSHIP

[MattyRangers]

nowt against you w12 but jesus you need to chill.have Rangers ever given you happy memories? i know its a tough ol life supporting QPR but we should all try to make it a little bit easier without digging the club out at every given opportunity.i know most are unhappy at prices etc but as another poster said,come cfc and utd every ****er will want a ticket.agree with paladini,he should have gone and no parade was a pisstake.still when the Rangers play its hard to stay away

spot on geeza! w12 you really do come across as a miserable, bitter old man with nothing better to do than #### people and the club off.

[Jeffro]

Players Bonuses not being paid as agreed on time.

[Nodge70]

But apart from the:-

- The club dismissing claims that Lippi is to replace Warnock
- The Faurlin Case - which basically ruined the title run in for many
- Paladini costing the club a £1million fine and remaining in a job
- No parade
- The delay on ST prices
- The club denying Warnocks link to West Ham (can't remember if this happened but throw it in there for now)
- ST prices with no early bird
- Amit walking
- Rumours of bulk selling ticket bundles to oversea tour operators
- The Danny Graham fiasco
- Taarabt's interview (which was brutally honest in my view)
- The club denying Warnock is on the way out (30th of June)
- Not offering Sean Derry a new contract.
- The CMS fiasco
- The Barry Fry claims about our owners
- No kit
- No new sponsor
- Walk up prices
- Superhoop rip off extra
- Falsifying (alledgiedly) the OSC Meeting Minutes


What have the Romans ever done for us?

[ChelmsfordRs]

spot on geeza! w12 you really do come across as a miserable, bitter old man with nothing better to do than #### people and the club off.

[MrSwakeley]

spot on geeza! w12 you really do come across as a miserable, bitter old man with nothing better to do than #### people and the club off.

So, rather than address the comments in the original post you prefer to #### the poster off?

Which of the points listed by W12 do you disagree with? Which of the points listed by W12 do you think the club should be patted on the back for?

I may not be as peeved about things as W12 but I am still pretty peeved. From my position, he has every right to feel aggrieved, just as you have not to be aggrieved.

There have been quite a few posts from people asking why people aren't delirious that we have made it back to the Prem... and I think the original post articulates those thoughts pretty well.

[Nodge70]

spot on geeza! w12 you really do come across as a miserable, bitter old man with nothing better to do than #### people and the club off.

Valid points he was making IMO. No need to get personal. We all have opinions.

If everything is treacle and tickety boo, there'd be no reports of the LMA and PFA trying to act as mediators between staff and management.

[W12_Ranger]

But apart from the:-

- The club dismissing claims that Lippi is to replace Warnock
- The Faurlin Case - which basically ruined the title run in for many
- Paladini costing the club a £1million fine and remaining in a job
- No parade
- The delay on ST prices
- The club denying Warnocks link to West Ham (can't remember if this happened but throw it in there for now)
- ST prices with no early bird
- Amit walking
- Rumours of bulk selling ticket bundles to oversea tour operators
- The Danny Graham fiasco
- Taarabt's interview (which was brutally honest in my view)
- The club denying Warnock is on the way out (30th of June)
- Not offering Sean Derry a new contract.
- The CMS fiasco
- The Barry Fry claims about our owners
- No kit
- No new sponsor
- Walk up prices
- Superhoop rip off extra
- Falsifying (alledgiedly) the OSC Meeting Minutes


What have the Romans ever done for us?

Shocking isn't it Nodge, you show that list to your employers at Spurs and they would be astonished, all in the space of a few months.....oh well, onwards and upwards as they like to say!

[W12_Ranger]

HERES MINE

QPR BEFORE YOUR LIST - CHAMPIONSHIP

NOW - PREMIERSHIP

I see you are 23 so I can understand your excitement, I grew up watching us play in the top flight so its really not a big thing to me. If the bright lights of the PL seem to pass me by you'll have to excuse me but I really think there are more important issues going on here.....one's that threaten the very foundations of the clubs support.

Still I guess the club is banking on supporters like you to turn a blind eye in return to watch the Superstars of the Premier League!

[Nodge70]

Shocking isn't it Nodge, you show that list to your employers at Spurs and they would be astonished, all in the space of a few months.....oh well, onwards and upwards as they like to say!

I'm not a football mercenary, I'm no Carlos Tevez. Match my salary, give me an expensed vehicle and I'd be happy to chat terms.

Get GP to have quick chat with my agent and get the deal done.

[sirpiechucker]

No idea what direction the club is heading. I'm very concerned to be honest. Yes we are now a Premiership club but I'd rather watch us compete with a chance of victory then see beating Derby's Premiership record as some kind of an achievement which is all that I can see us doing next season.

I've lost all the positivity I had and TBH I'm not looking forward to paying silly money (money which I don't readily have available) to watch us get stuffed week in and week out. I love my club and I want to support them and know that I have an outside chance of watching a team led by Neil Warnock, chosen by Neil Warnock and competing under his leadership.

[MattyRangers]

So, rather than address the comments in the original post you prefer to #### the poster off?

Which of the points listed by W12 do you disagree with? Which of the points listed by W12 do you think the club should be patted on the back for?

I may not be as peeved about things as W12 but I am still pretty peeved. From my position, he has every right to feel aggrieved, just as you have not to be aggrieved.

There have been quite a few posts from people asking why people aren't delirious that we have made it back to the Prem... and I think the original post articulates those thoughts pretty well.

- The club dismissing claims that Lippi is to replace Warnock- if a newspaper decides to make up a story, what can the club do about that other that deny its true?
- The Faurlin Case - which basically ruined the title run in for many no defending this, was a total balls up that put us all through alot of sh1te.
- Paladini costing the club a £1million fine and remaining in a job Yes, in this instance he did cost us £1mill, not defending him and i agree he should be gone, he is a liability to the club. BUT, playing devils advocate here and correct me if im wrong as i may well be, but didnt he get the men onboard that have kept us afloat right when we were threatened with admin? The men that have funded our championship winning season and thus made the club £90mill? And no responses de-touring off going on about lack of investment this coming year as thats not the subject.
- No parade- total sh1te. Really annoyed about that.
- The delay on ST prices. Not fair on fans, agreed.
- The club denying Warnocks link to West Ham (can't remember if this happened but throw it in there for now) cant recall / remember so wont comment.
- ST prices with no early bird as a fan, yes its bullsh1te and eems totally unfair and shows no loyalty reward at all. BUT, again playing Devils Advocate, at the end of the day theyre not fans, theyre business men here for a quick buck and we all know that, they know whatever they charge a majority will still pay, regardless of having a moan on the way or not. Theyre multi millionaires / billioanires because they know how to make money and theyre doing so again.
- Amit walking- would much rather see MIttals in charge, yes. BUT we dont know much about them at all and, as far as I know, they havent put much money into the club at all, they are good at PR and know what to say to get fans on side which is a good thing, but I cant help but think they dont really acre about the club too much either and people seem to hold them in such high regard without them having done much for the club at all.
- Rumours of bulk selling ticket bundles to oversea tour operators "Rumours" says it all. There are also positive rumours of takeovers, yet a majority on ehre only seem to talk about the negative "rumours" and brush off the positive 1s.
- The Danny Graham fiasco. Very frustrating and seems too many people think theyre ITK when clearly theyre now.
- Taarabt's interview (which was brutally honest in my view) Reading the whole interview, although anoying for us fans and showing a cmplete lack of respect to us, from his own point of view who can blame him? its not as though we can really argue with what he said. We all know what hes like and that hes never going to be loyal to us.
- The club denying Warnock is on the way out (30th of June). As first point.
- Not offering Sean Derry a new contract. If true, club showin complete lack of loyalty to a great servant last year.
- The CMS fiasco. Unsure what to think of this as I, personally, dont think we ever properlyin for him. I reckon it was simply a case of askinghow much they were asking for him.
- The Barry Fry claims about our owners. Although only claims, i cant help but feel theyre spot on and we are in the brown unless a takeover comes off.
- No kit. Shambolic reallly seeing as most clubs wear their new kit on the fnal game of previous season. Sums current ownership up.
- No new sponsor. As above.
- Walk up prices. Absolute robbery but, as said previously, the owners dont care about us and theyre not fans, they are business that know how to make money and they will do. Theyre not here to make friends and theyve got thicker skin than rhino's so a few chants telling them to f*ck off wont do much.- Superhoop rip off extra. As above.
- Falsifying (alledgiedly) the OSC Meeting Minutes. Dont know much about the subject so cant comment.

[MattyRangers]

So, rather than address the comments in the original post you prefer to #### the poster off?

Which of the points listed by W12 do you disagree with? Which of the points listed by W12 do you think the club should be patted on the back for?

I may not be as peeved about things as W12 but I am still pretty peeved. From my position, he has every right to feel aggrieved, just as you have not to be aggrieved.

There have been quite a few posts from people asking why people aren't delirious that we have made it back to the Prem... and I think the original post articulates those thoughts pretty well.

Fair post mate, agreed my post to W12 was abit personal (apologies going out to ya bud!).

[Chalet1882]

I see you are 23 so I can understand your excitement, I grew up watching us play in the top flight so its really not a big thing to me. If the bright lights of the PL seem to pass me by you'll have to excuse me but I really think there are more important issues going on here.....one's that threaten the very foundations of the clubs support.

Still I guess the club is banking on supporters like you to turn a blind eye in return to watch the Superstars of the Premier League!

w12 i agree with you on most things

but reading this site and most others you would of thought you was looking at a portsmouth board

and is it so much of a surprise to find out that football is corupt?????

take the blinkers off this is football it wouldnt matter what team you talk about there all corupt the higher u go doesnt mean theres less of it

im not blinded by the lights of the prem to be totaly honest i think your statements totaly different to the way i post and the way i feel about the club

if you got that much of a problem not just you w12 but any one
get on your bike get down the club and sort it out>?

[MrSwakeley]

Fair post mate, agreed my post to W12 was abit personal (apologies going out to ya bud!).

Thanks for responding Matty and for your reasoned points.