Negative posters are more passionate fans

[IsleworthRanger]

I do think discussions should of been made to stop those that have renewed. It would of put allot of pressure on the owners to rethink the pricing structure. Lets face it if the loyalty was dropped then they would be in real trouble. Most people that have no support for the R's would just go and watch Fulham or chelsea. We are a newly promoted team that is paying top 8 prices. It's wrong and I think allot more could of been done about it. No point imo saying I have bought my st but I am willing to back any group compaining, they r happy because you and many others that can afford it have given them what they want.

Very strange post indeed

So basically you are saying that because I support the fight to help fellow fans especially the walk up prices I should have not renewed my season ticket

[qblockpete]

Since QPR forums started, I suggest you will find the same negative posters back then, that you do now.

Nothing much changes.

Thrive on the bad news and go quiet in the good times. Hardly noticed a peek from them when we were winning the championship, apart from after defeats to Millwall, Leeds and Norwich.

This summer they are back in force

[TBLOCKRANGER]

Would also throw into the argument that the many genuine supporters who simply cannot afford to go don't need Pete saying "Well, its only £30+ quid a ticket if they buy a season ticket not 40+ for a walk up so buy one of them". That's not the real world.

Those who genuinely cannot afford it not only miss the match but the social gathering with their mates and other fans both pre-match and after the game. Without an outlet for their views on all things Rangers, where are they going to go and have a moan? Yep, messageboards. It's the only outlet they have open to them to communicate with other fans. So I find it rather silly when certain posters say "Well, they shouldn't be coming on here moaning." How else are they to vent their justifiable anger without the social means of the matchday get togethers that we all take for granted?

You've made a v good point, agreed ticket prices are unjustifiable but the issue is many posters are simply moaning about everything. I accept many can't go to the game and come onto the forum to vent ones fury but some will
constantly moan about everything. Take last season, top of the league for most of it but some were saying warnocks tactics are wrong, we need to score more goals, can't get a ticket for Leeds, even moaning about fans moaning in certain
parts of LR.
For me it's if anyone comes on the board to say anything positive they're viewed almost like a scab in the miners strike,
the concern is that militants who always moan tend to set the agenda. I agree vent your fury but let that fury be
proportionate and justifiable and not born out of bitterness of not attending the games.

[RussRanger]

Since QPR forums started, I suggest you will find the same negative posters back then, that you do now.

Nothing much changes.

Thrive on the bad news and go quiet in the good times. Hardly noticed a peek from them when we were winning the championship, apart from after defeats to Millwall, Leeds and Norwich.

This summer they are back in force

So, are you saying there is nothing to moan about at the moment? That everything is fine in the QPR garden? Or are you saying you only want to hear positive posts?

[Stanley]

I do think discussions should of been made to stop those that have renewed. It would of put allot of pressure on the owners to rethink the pricing structure..... It's wrong and I think allot more could of been done about it.

Very strange post indeed

Agree Beefy, very strange, all this 'of' stuff...do you think he means 'have'?

[MrSwakeley]

Yes, there are negative posters around at most times and yes, spookily enough they disappear in the good times but are more prevalent in the bad times. Wonder why that is... is there a rocket scientist in the house?

I actually felt quite negative at times during the Sousa reign... and unless my memory serves me badly, so were quite a few posters on here.

If people feel there is negativity at boardroom level which affects the manager's ability to do his job then of course they are entitled to air their concerns.

There is scarcely anything I know about the running of the club, apart from public pronouncements (and a few of them concern me). However, I do KNOW that Neil has been unhappy and as a result that makes me unhappy.

Despite being an grumpy old man, I would love to revel in our return to the PL but find it difficult when I switch my attention to the slightly longer-term future. If that is being unduly negative then I am guilty as charged.

As I mentioned elsewhere, following our second place finish behind Liverpool, I turned up to LR full of optimism for the new season, fully expecting us to do the League and UEFA Cup double. Then Bob Latchford and Everton turned up... and it was over before it even began.

[TBLOCKRANGER]

I do think discussions should of been made to stop those that have renewed. It would of put allot of pressure on the owners to rethink the pricing structure. Lets face it if the loyalty was dropped then they would be in real trouble. Most people that have no support for the R's would just go and watch Fulham or chelsea. We are a newly promoted team that is paying top 8 prices. It's wrong and I think allot more could of been done about it. No point imo saying I have bought my st but I am willing to back any group compaining, they r happy because you and many others that can afford it have given them what they want.

Great post to justify the unjustifiable action of getting a refund on a season ticket.

[Shania]

There are 3 types of posters on here,

the positive fan who really hopes everything will be OK and who buries his head in the sand regarding the problems in the knowledge that it will all work out for the best in time. A true fan regardless of any isssues because there's always been issues, its QPR.

The negative fan takes his head out of the sand at the hint of a problem with his beloved club, and in the form of a personal protest tries to gather support for the injustice that is occuring, and fearing that damage is being done he just won't stand for it, and is brave enough to complain and demand answers.

But there is a worse type of fan. The phoney ITK fan, spreading unfounded rumours and gossip that are the cause of all this bickering, not the neg fan. This fan is an insecure attention seeker, also considers himself privileged to info that the ordinary fan has no access to, so they think they are more important, and better fans than us, when in fact, they really know nothing, as has been proved.

The general harmony is disturbed due to the widening gulf between the club and its fans, the lack of info, and lack of any action in the transfer market. But I also think that the missing parade was psycologically more damaging than anything else, it was insulting, and deep down we all feel ignored by the club. They had their end of season party internally, but our loyalty wasn't rewarded, we were not allowed to celebrate with our team. If a parade had occured, this bickering wouldn't be so bad because we now would feel closer to our team than we do.

You are wrong. The negative posters are moaning all the time.

[stainrod10]

I think negative fans are just realists.

Nail on head. Put me in that bracket please.

[RussRanger]

Nail on head. Put me in that bracket please.

No... D.I.Y.

Is there a whooshing sound?

[rangerforevereastcote]

Generalising I know but it always seems to be that the most negative fans are ones that whatever reason do not go to games much anyway but moaning or sniping at the club somehow allows then to still have a loose involvement with the club

[Rich]

Of course there are the fans who take the moral high ground and come on here analysing other fans views, so I guess that makes four types.....