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  • #46
    Just for the record, I used Mancienne as the measuring stick in which I compared Connolly too, I was NOT mentioning him in the hope we go after him again.

    I do feel however that there is a slight bias towards Connolly from alot of people because he DOES play for us, has rarely had a bad game, and is of similar age ro Mancienne. And as i've stated before I DO like Connolly and rate him as a solid player. But, as we tend to do with any half decent youngster we have, I think our fans are going a little bit overboard with some of there comments regarding him.

    Connolly is Not worth 5 million, and is yet to really have an outstanding display at CB. Solid? YES, but I cant remember a game last season where Connolly had a striker in his pocket to the degree that he made said striker look absolutely useless. Again Im open for people to give me examples of when he HAS done this as i may just have a short term memory!
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    • #47
      Yeah Mancienne had the average Patrick Agymang in his pocket? Oh no wait a min he showed up all of Mancienne's weaknesses!
      I played sunday league football today.

      Clearly I was the best player on the pitch.

      I scored 5 and made 7 last ditch tackles.

      We lost 5-0 but the rest of my team were sh it!

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      • #48
        you can't judge players on one game, consistency is a major factor of a pro footballer, sorts out what level players play, Connolly as said has very steady games more often than not. Maybe not stand out but is very reliable at the back and all across the back to. Mancienne is a quality player though and will play for Chelsea, i think there both very exciting prospects.

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        • #49
          Yes lets keep referring to the same game in which Mancienne, who had left us for another club on loan, and after rejecting thre chance to join us, was below par. Despite that game, he'd been awesome for us, including a game at Ashton Gate that for once had opposing fans in AWE of one of our players, and again awesome for Wolves during his time there.

          I dont want this to turn into an argument about Mancienne as the thread is about Connolly. If people on here really want to slate Mancienne though, I will happily back his corner as too many of you are scorned he didnt join us.

          Agyemang is average, but I thought we all agreed he was a handfull for ANY defender. Hell he even gave Chelsea a rough time when we played them, and Im sure there defence is ****e too now yeah?
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          • #50
            I bet you also raved about Jimmy Smith and look where he ended up!
            John Terry wasn't playing for Chelsea when we played them.
            I played sunday league football today.

            Clearly I was the best player on the pitch.

            I scored 5 and made 7 last ditch tackles.

            We lost 5-0 but the rest of my team were sh it!

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Half Empty View Post
              Just for the record, I used Mancienne as the measuring stick in which I compared Connolly too, I was NOT mentioning him in the hope we go after him again.

              I do feel however that there is a slight bias towards Connolly from alot of people because he DOES play for us, has rarely had a bad game, and is of similar age ro Mancienne. And as i've stated before I DO like Connolly and rate him as a solid player. But, as we tend to do with any half decent youngster we have, I think our fans are going a little bit overboard with some of there comments regarding him.

              Connolly is Not worth 5 million, and is yet to really have an outstanding display at CB. Solid? YES, but I cant remember a game last season where Connolly had a striker in his pocket to the degree that he made said striker look absolutely useless. Again Im open for people to give me examples of when he HAS done this as i may just have a short term memory!
              & Mancienne did? haha

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              • #52
                5 million, you have to take that sort of money.

                Club can keep 1m and spend 4m on two quality players.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Cait. View Post
                  & Mancienne did? haha
                  At CB more often than not, yes he did. Infact I gave an example of when Mancienne played at CB and had the whole STADIUM in awe of his game at Bristol City away. Im not the best for remembering 1 off games in detail, but im sure theres more. Mancienne only started to look squiffy when played at RB, which is the same as Connolly.

                  Winalotto has summed it up for me, both are reliable and versatile, but for me, Connolly is yet to have an OUTSTANDING game for us, whereas Mancienne did.

                  I didnt rate Jimmy Smith whatsoever for the cretin whos decided to put words into my mouth.
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                  • #54
                    cretin? Slightly over the top but I'm not going to get into a name calling match. I'll leave those games to you and Morris. Your just making yourself come across pathetic. Still at least you have a good argument with MM that your memory loss is making it difficult to highlight these wonderful performances. For me to many performance had crucial mistakes. We have Stewart throwing in a few we don't want to add MM to that list.
                    I played sunday league football today.

                    Clearly I was the best player on the pitch.

                    I scored 5 and made 7 last ditch tackles.

                    We lost 5-0 but the rest of my team were sh it!

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by WeAreQPR12 View Post
                      cretin? Slightly over the top but I'm not going to get into a name calling match. I'll leave those games to you and Morris. Your just making yourself come across pathetic. Still at least you have a good argument with MM that your memory loss is making it difficult to highlight these wonderful performances. For me to many performance had crucial mistakes. We have Stewart throwing in a few we don't want to add MM to that list.
                      Im not here to praise Mancienne. I compaired Connolly to MM as they are both similar in how they play, age, and obviously QPR fans are going to compaire the 2. My initial argument, which now seems all but a disant memory thanks to being distracted, is that Connolly is being over hyped by our fans and whilst a solid player, is no way worth 5 Million.

                      People can hark on about Connolly being better than Mancienne all they want are are certainly intitled to their opinion. In black and white however, Mancienne has already accomplished so much more than Connolly, that it isnt fair on Connolly to be constantly compaired to him.

                      And you say my argument is invalid because I cant recall every game Mancienne had a screamer for us, well I've given oe off the top of my head but am yet to remember or be reminded of a game where Connolly has had a brilliant game for us, not decent, not solid, but briliant.

                      I await a list of games to be given as examples.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by PeterG View Post
                        5m for conolly when was this price tag put on

                        I would take it like a shot, I like connely he is good and versatile but we are not too bad on defenders and if transfer budged could get you 2 promotion winning strikers

                        Not too bad on Defenders?

                        I don't agree.

                        Connolly - very good
                        Gorkss - very good
                        Ramage ok
                        Delaney ok
                        Stewart hit and miss. Look at some of his howlers in recent seasons. Last season he was wholly or partially at fault for at least 5 goals. Burnley home and cup, Norwich, Doncaster, Wolves.
                        Hall - not really as good as we thought he would be, and certainly not worth his 18,000(?) a week pay.

                        If Connolly left, I think QPR's defence would suffer.

                        I am sure that Arsenal have a sell-on clause, and QPR would probably squander the remainder on some average players and a worse defender. The
                        £5M fee - minus the sell on clause - wouldn't be of much use, if it meant another mid-table season.

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                        • #57
                          Spot on Stan!
                          At last a man talking sense.
                          Shame we don't have a few more like you stan that talk common sense.
                          What with all your name calling etc Half empty, please take note as you could learn so much from someone like stan.
                          I played sunday league football today.

                          Clearly I was the best player on the pitch.

                          I scored 5 and made 7 last ditch tackles.

                          We lost 5-0 but the rest of my team were sh it!

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by shadwell72 View Post
                            Mancienne is a good player but IMO i would have to say that Connoly is gonna be the better player in the long term as Mancienne does make the odd mistake whereas Connoly hasn't put a foot wrong since he arrived.
                            It is no suprise that prem teams are looking at him as he is a quality versatile player and if we sold we would have to sign at least 2 players to cover his loss!!;D
                            Oh I don't know if anyone else really analyses games but I think you will find he sometimes struggles at set pieces and lapses of concetration means he loses his man.
                            One of the best players at the club though without a doubt.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by WeAreQPR12 View Post
                              Spot on Stan!
                              At last a man talking sense.
                              Shame we don't have a few more like you stan that talk common sense.
                              What with all your name calling etc Half empty, please take note as you could learn so much from someone like stan.
                              What doesnt make sense about what i've put so far? And is is only common sense because he agree's with your opinion that Connolly shouldnt be sold?

                              You have obviously taken offense to being called a cretin, but unfortunately you tried to rubbish my opinion by making assumptions on me, despite knowing anything about me. Why would I rate Jimmy Smith? because im not joining the "Mancienne wasnt even that good now he doesnt play for us" bandwagon? Because I dared to play down Connolly as not being a 5 Million rated Prem quality player? What does Jimmy Smith have to do with anything? Nothing, hence why I called you a cretin. Get over it.

                              In any case im not sure why people are worrying so much when we could potentially get around 2 million for the sale of Delaney and Hall!!
                              Last edited by Half Empty; 15-06-2009, 04:12 PM.
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                              • #60
                                Speaking of Mancienne he has been sent off.

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