OSC EGM - Further email received

[Stanley]

All people have wanted to know is how has Ian Stenning et al have been voted on to a committee where the electorate have not even voted! They are supposedly there to represent season ticket holders and members and I have never seen a ballot form in my life. The LSA committee are voted in by its members. And by the way, many QPR fans do a lot of voluntary things which are not made public!

You can see why people find it strange the club gives the supporter of the year to someone who is on a committee that they will only speak to.

Pete?

[Scarlet pimple]

I dont know but really should not have trouble finding out how the committee
becomes the committee...........surly they are democratically elected.

But by who???

[Rich]

Just spent 10 mins reading this entire thread.

Does anyone actually think the muppets running our club will sit down with anyone and listen to what us peasants want regardless of who is elected and what body were to sit with them?

Just a thought.

[Scarlet pimple]

Another thought, are the personal details we give the club regarding ST's passed on to osc.???

[qblockpete]

Hammersmith r's not sure how the committee works, but are you sure everyone on the LSa committee gets a vote from its members. Just a genuine question

Stanley76, The way I understand it the OSC have close links with the club. If for example an event is being organised the OSC organise it. They did lot of fundraising for Grace and Football In The Community for example

Its not a political group (not the best way of explaining it, I know), but they have been close to the club for several years.

It does seem the club are now trying to shift the contact side of things towards the OSC so they can relay to members, though that has not be clarified. It was decided by the club after 2009 and Amit was instrumental in the decision, to stop the big fans group meetings every couple of months. We had forum owners (including me), groups and other high profile fans attending (words high profile are wrong, but you know what i mean). The numbers started off about 8 and in the end it was around 18-19 and even arguments on how many for each group. For example Joe Hylton because he posted on this site was asked not to attend, when in reality he is well known by the QPR fan base and was NOT respresenting WATRB's.

In a nutshell we had internal arguments and in the end numbers were just increasing all the time. I suspect the club might now wish to speak directly to only the OSC, but in all fairness they have only met the once and doubt they will meet regularly.

Its the clubs fault because they show a lack of respect to all fans, but it was never a problem last season and I cannot see yet what has changed in regards specifically to the OSC

[qblockpete]

Scarlet Pimple

The club have your details don't see what benefit it would be to the OSC.

RICH, I would suggest it very unlikely any group will pin down the owners at all and only speak to club departments once/twice a season

[Scarlet pimple]

Well pete how would the osc know who there members are if they have no details, and if they dont know who their members are.....what is the point of the osc......because they then represent nobody.

[qblockpete]

I would imagine its up to season ticket holders/members to contact them. They used to have a messageboard (not sure what happened to that) and facility on official web-site

[Scarlet pimple]

They have been contacted pete and we await a proper response.

[Stanley]

The OSC dont appear to be at all transparent or democratic but thanks for shedding a bit more light on it Pete.

[Artful]

Hammersmith r's not sure how the committee works, but are you sure everyone on the LSa committee gets a vote from its members. Just a genuine question

Stanley76, The way I understand it the OSC have close links with the club. If for example an event is being organised the OSC organise it. They did lot of fundraising for Grace and Football In The Community for example

Its not a political group (not the best way of explaining it, I know), but they have been close to the club for several years.

It does seem the club are now trying to shift the contact side of things towards the OSC so they can relay to members, though that has not be clarified. It was decided by the club after 2009 and Amit was instrumental in the decision, to stop the big fans group meetings every couple of months. We had forum owners (including me), groups and other high profile fans attending (words high profile are wrong, but you know what i mean). The numbers started off about 8 and in the end it was around 18-19 and even arguments on how many for each group. For example Joe Hylton because he posted on this site was asked not to attend, when in reality he is well known by the QPR fan base and was NOT respresenting WATRB's.

In a nutshell we had internal arguments and in the end numbers were just increasing all the time. I suspect the club might now wish to speak directly to only the OSC, but in all fairness they have only met the once and doubt they will meet regularly.

Its the clubs fault because they show a lack of respect to all fans, but it was never a problem last season and I cannot see yet what has changed in regards specifically to the OSC

I have no problem at all with the club only dealing with OSC, as long as they are representing the members veiw. My issue (along with other posters) is that over the last 15 years of having a s/t I have never been contacted by the OSC in regards to my veiws or to vote in/out committee members. I,m sure the OSC committee members are fantastic people - I do not bear any malice, but if the OSC is for the members why does it seem its run like a dictatorship rather than democratically?

[Nodge70]

Oh dear. Questions not being answered.

Please, can someone from the OSC please state how elections to their committee work?


LSA is one member one vote and entirely transparent

[HammersmithR]

Hammersmith r's not sure how the committee works, but are you sure everyone on the LSa committee gets a vote from its members. Just a genuine question

Stanley76, The way I understand it the OSC have close links with the club. If for example an event is being organised the OSC organise it. They did lot of fundraising for Grace and Football In The Community for example

Its not a political group (not the best way of explaining it, I know), but they have been close to the club for several years.

It does seem the club are now trying to shift the contact side of things towards the OSC so they can relay to members, though that has not be clarified. It was decided by the club after 2009 and Amit was instrumental in the decision, to stop the big fans group meetings every couple of months. We had forum owners (including me), groups and other high profile fans attending (words high profile are wrong, but you know what i mean). The numbers started off about 8 and in the end it was around 18-19 and even arguments on how many for each group. For example Joe Hylton because he posted on this site was asked not to attend, when in reality he is well known by the QPR fan base and was NOT respresenting WATRB's.

In a nutshell we had internal arguments and in the end numbers were just increasing all the time. I suspect the club might now wish to speak directly to only the OSC, but in all fairness they have only met the once and doubt they will meet regularly.

Its the clubs fault because they show a lack of respect to all fans, but it was never a problem last season and I cannot see yet what has changed in regards specifically to the OSC

Pete, you astound me sometimes with your ignorance on certain issues. You are a LSA member and use its coaches so should know more than most people. But I will make it CLEAR for you.

The LSA ever since its inception in 1987 have an AGM at the end of a season where all committee members put themselves forward to either be elected if they are new to the committee or re-elected. People put themselves forward at the AGM where the members are present. This year it was on the morning of the Leeds game in the LSA bar of the Springbok. Many members were there to re-elect the committee. This is called being DEMOCRACTIC, ACCOUNTABLE and TRANSPARENT. None of which the OSC has!

I am very surprised by your question on this matter as you know probably everyone on the LSA committee.