Amazing what decent priced season tickets can do....

[qprjames]

Swansea sold 16k

Don't say they're a bigger club than us either.

[Quaz]

bolton announced today no season ticket price rise for the 5th season, and they manage just fine.

[qblockpete]

Got prices right

Got timing right


We did neither............

[stainrodisalegend]

True, though in fairness there prob isnt a lot else to do in Wales...

[Quaz]

True, though in fairness there prob isnt a lot else to do in Wales...

you tell the sheep that

[Scarlet pimple]

you tell the sheep that

[QPRbob]

Have we got 16K who would buy a ST?!

[bushcelt1]

at the right price yeah....looking to make a few more dollars on the gate tho....

[Gerryhatrick]

We used to be a bigger club than Swansea, years ago. But that's history and many clubs have caught us up while we haven't progressed.

So what reasons today still define as as a bigger club ? I'm struggling.

[Top Flight]

Unfortunately Rangers are not progressing very much at the moment in terms of expanding the club.

A number of very good provincial clubs have made massive strides forwards after developing new stadia. The likes of:

Cardiff City
Reading
Leicester City
Coventry City
Derby County
Swansea City
Southampton

And there are more examples and some new examples on the way like Brighton....

These clubs have built really comfortable stadiums. Places that are easy to get to, loads of parking, good facilities, family friendly, reasonably priced.
Lots of factors have enabled all of these clubs to grow. While Rangers are an old traditional club but unable to attract younger fans and families bringing kids who would be the future of the club.

If Rangers could build a 30,000 to 40,000 seat arena in Ruislip along the lines of the Madejski Stadium in terms of being a luxury stadia with excellent facilities and good bars especially for the home fans. With Reading style pricing. Just £375 to renew an adult season ticket all around the ground, then Rangers would grow rapidly.

QPR have a huge potential fan base in the Western London Suburbs. Ruislip on its own is as big as Reading and is full of lots of families and young children who would love a good solid Championship/Premiership football club to support. Then after Ruislip, there's Hillingdon, Yeading, Uxbridge, loads of places with loads of potential Rangers support. West Ruilsip is easy to get to from the Bush to keep the inner city fans sweet.

With the right facility, in the right area, and with the right policies, Rangers would be the West London equivalent of West Ham, but could be even bigger still. It's all about how the club is built up.

Forget trying to model ourselves on Chelsea and Arsenal with high ticket prices. They seem to be able to get away with that nonsense. But if you look around the stands at those clubs there aren't many kids. Rangers should build for the future. Be family friendly, get the kids in now and we will overtake the likes of Chelsea in 20 years time and be just as big again.

[Dazzer1977]

you tell the sheep that

I thought sheep prefer to be referred to as Leisure Centre's in Wales!

[BUSHRANGER1982]

And they seem to be able to nurture and grow the "feel good" factor, as well. Unlike QPR, who kill it stone dead with greed almost as soon as it started.

[silvercue]

Great post top flight.

People need to accept that we are not a big club. Forget what you think we were a few years ago. Whether you like it or not Fulham are bigger than us now.

Don't tell me we have more fans - because fans that don't go to matches or buy merchendise are not contributing to the growth, development and revenue of a club....so having more fans like that than Fulham does not help make us bigger.

QPR have sold out what....5 times in 6 years? I am usually a member (though not this year) and the only game I have ever not been able to get a ticket for was Leeds.

Putting prices up like they have will just slowly strangle the club. We might have the draw for 1st year back in the Prem, but we will not attract more fans long term unless we actually do compete at the top, which we wil not if we are trying to fund it through fan generated revenue.

I would rather we accept that we are small, price fairly and play in the Championship to be honest. I know no one will agree with me, but in a few years you might.

We either need a bigger stadium, where we can justify a higher price...LR is one of the worst stadium facilities, or a rich backer to fund us...though we seem to drive them away, or play where we fit.

[PedalR]

By any definition London is a "world city". We have a fairly central position in a massive urban area that's densely populated and commands exhorbitant prices for land. My point is this; comparing our situation to cruddy little pissholes like Reading, Leicester etc is pointless... they only had to move 800yds from their central High Streets to find acres of space for sale at 50 pence per km/2. I'm guessing that vast majority of fans would oppose us selling LR and then moving miles westwards to Hayes, Greenford or Uxbridge. Rather than viewing our geographic position as a barrier we ought to exploit it - I reckon our owners are trying to do that with their "boutique" vision. Personally I think they're sort of on the right track but need to go more urban/edgy/progressive than the "posh" route.

[Top Flight]

The thing is, we can be a big club again. We are held back by LR and its size and location and things. And now high ticket prices will put families and kids right off. I know the club are selling season tickets to under 8s for just £50 but if the Dad can't afford to go, its not much use.

It would be horrible if Rangers became like Chelsea or Arsenal with stands full of 50 year old men with no kids or young ones around the ground. Cause a 40 or a 50 year old will be the only people that can afford £1000 season tickets.

Young 30 years olds who have just jumped on the housing ladder and got married and are about to have kids can't justify to the mrs £700 or £800 season tickets.

This path is the road to long-term decline. QPR cannot go forwards and grow the club like this. First and foremost we just need a new ground and then we can think about attracting new fans in.