Poster Pm'd me, Some Interesting Info

[sportsman50]

It would hardly be a surprise really. The fact they made an offer to buy out Bernie stated their intention. It was by all accounts a derisery offer, which is the initial gameplan of any negotiation, starting low. Therefore, when the inevitable rejection came, why would they then wash their hands of the club and never try to renegotiate..?

Mittal is clearly one of the shrewdest business men around by his success, and must have equally brilliant business brains around him, so i'm sure he knows how to negotiate, in his own way and in his own time.

Either they have the intention or they don't, and by the fact they started the ball rolling, surely they do.

+1 good post mate

[swanleyhoop]

1. Businessmen barter -- they never go in with their final offer.
2. (Very different point) If the Mittals succeed, there's just a tiny bit of me that's saying "Out of the frying pan, into the fire". Probably unfounded, but we've been here before.

[QPR1976]

No need to use Pete to post, set up a new username and post under that.
Just 1 post and need never be used again.

Then why would Pete agree to post, if as previously stated, he 100% knows Amit will not return and Mittal unlikely to return with a new offer.
Unless of course Pete, you know more than your letting on ?
Gowan, spill the beans or at least say why Amit wont be back (did he tell you that ? Am I close ?)

Mittal may be a shrewd businessman, but so is Bernie.
Not so much Flavio, who only plays and risks other peoples money (IMO)

This will run for months.

[singingranger]

Pete,

as i said on a previous thread, as i understand Bernie's and Flavios shares were close to being sold last season to the Kingfisher group to work with the Mittals but due to Flavio's investigation this put a stop to this, with this kind of stuff going around it hardly makes the club up for grabs does it?

This info is via MoonSafari who i trust and have known for many years.

it would be sensible to back of at that point, after cheating in f1, and as it was Flavio who had been involved day to day with qpr at that point, Mittal Senior could be worried about his own reputation.

Other people have also posted that Bernie only took on Flavios shares to stop the league and FA giving us a hard time after the F1 cheat ban incident.

Bernie didnt do anything special last season, the bookies made us odds on in september, so it was risk worth taking to get involved make sure we see it over the finishing line and then cash in on his investment, your making him out to be God.

I also understand via Moon that Mittals did fund a lot of the January activity.

[Bluehoop]

Pete,

as i said on a previous thread, as i understand Bernie's and Flavios shares were close to being sold last season to the Kingfisher group to work with the Mittals but due to Flavio's investigation this put a stop to this, with this kind of stuff going around it hardly makes the club up for grabs does it?

This info is via MoonSafari who i trust and have known for many years.

it would be sensible to back of at that point, after cheating in f1, and as it was Flavio who had been involved day to day with qpr at that point, Mittal Senior could be worried about his own reputation.

Other people have also posted that Bernie only took on Flavios shares to stop the league and FA giving us a hard time after the F1 cheat ban incident.

Bernie didnt do anything special last season, the bookies made us odds on in september, so it was risk worth taking to get involved make sure we see it over the finishing line and then cash in on his investment, your making him out to be God.

I also understand via Moon that Mittals did fund a lot of the January activity.

One massive difference now of course - trying to buy an ordinary mid table championship club that makes a huge loss month on month is a tad cheaper than buying one that has just hit the £60M + gravy train - even if the club will still run at a loss due to its size and available ticket revenue etc.

[Dazzer1977]

I posted last week and I maintain what I said. What's currently going on is classic boardroom chess. The Mittal's will return with a further offer to buy the club and I won't be worried about them ending their interest in a buyout unless they sell their shares. I find it difficult how one can say he step's down because he feel's he can't work with other board members, yet still maintain his 33% stake - Sorry but that doesn't work in business. One is using the media to say the offer is insulting obviously because he wants to sell and get the best price and the other is using the media to build up support, effectively creating an us and them scenario, trying to gain control for a little as possible. I don't blame either side really and they say you should never mix business with friendship.

What I do feel though that people forget is that we are in the hands of very powerful people, astute businessmen who very rarely fail. There are not many clubs in the Premiership who (and I am presuming this will happen) have a balance sheet showing in the black and no longer £33 million in debt. It's not ideal and we had our fairshare of bad publicity over the years but I think we are still in good hands either way.

[singingranger]

Good post Dazzer,


Problem is missing out on targets in the interim!

[waterbuffalo]

spot on, Dazzer, especially about both sides using the media.

[Loneranger80]

any more news on this....?

[singingranger]

Heard it on good authority that the owner of a norweigon Porno business is looming likely to take control of the club by Friday at 10.32am!