QPR: home truth's about the fans, owners and the club

[scottyboy007]

Over the last 6 months I have read so many negative posts on this MB, ranging from:

Personal attacks on each other
Personal attacks on flavio
Personal attacks on players
Personal attacks on the new manager
negative opinions on just about anything about QPR:

-players
-lack of money spent by the owners
-the way the owners have financed QPR
-the Flavio runs the company on a day to day basis
-the change of the qpr badge

just about anything at all........... even read reports that people enjoyed QPR more when we were in admin, in the 2nd division with no future!! short memories.......... and quite frankly totally stupid thing to say!!

The fact is the club have made mass steps forward over the last 2 years.....

almost in admin vs now owned by billionaires,
car giant local sponsor vs gulf air global brand
run down ground vs improved ground with big screen, exec facilities 2nd to none, serious revenue generator improvement opportunities
a relegation squad vs a very good squad capable of promotion
doom and gloom vs positive expectation

You all moan about Flavio getting too involved with the footballing side, well if i was a chairman and investor of a company, and the company was not producing the required results, I would demand answers and get involved to see where the problem is. We don't actually know what his involvement has been, but we always wanted a Charmian to be involved, making decisions when things are not right.... we now have one....... shame everyone now thinks the grass is greener on the other side

I read on here that the club is in financial trouble, and that the £10m loan is a way for the owners to make profit from the club.... in the same way you all state/demand flavio should stay out of footballing matters as he does not understand it, well take your own advice and keep out of the financial matters. As it is their money, and if they didn't have the best interest of the club why would they have invested the amount they have to date, which is significant. All the big football clubs operate in debt, you just need cash to run the debt. No problem at all, well not for me. Posters have said the £10m loan is a self making money scheme as it is financed at 7%.... this is crazy, as while the current owners still own the club and the lending company it is just "funny money". If they need to invest more money into the club they will provide the funds, i am sure.

Everyone is saying the club is a laughing stock...... i think you will find the press love to see big names fail. We have owners with big names and they love to run stories that will get people's attention. A few years ago we weren't in the media now we are in it all the time..... i think this is a good thing.

Sponsors... we have global sponsors.... multi million pound deals.... the envy of most premiership clubs.....

I have renewed my season ticket, and i am looking forward to the new season. Jim Magilton is a good appointment, not my personal favorite appointment i admit, but i can live with it and will give him a chance.
Players wise almost there.... 2 new strikers, left back, get Lopez in and tarbatt on loan for the season and I think we are a top 6 team.

The issue here, is that we all had an expectation of immediate success, including the press and I expect the owners. Mistakes will be made on this journey, but it is all about how you learn from the mistakes. These owners don't fail, give them time.

is it not about time we all started being positive and getting behind the ENTIRE football club? I think so!

Come on U R'ssssssssssssssssssssss

[Brazilnut]

Couldn't have said it better myself, good post but im sure someone will find a negative.

[3London]

At last!! excellent stuff...its time for the positive amongst us to start the fightback!!!

the wearethemoaningboys will be licking their lips at pulling this thread apart.

well said!

[Rangersw12]

I agree with what you say but I still belive all negativety started the day the board ripped us off with ticket prices it made people bitter and rightly or wrongly want something for their money

I'm quite happy with Magilton because he is "manager" so I hope he is allowed to do his own thing , I'm quite lucky that I have a young family so I dont have a ST and just pick and choose last season I did 3 home games and 13 away but if I paid £600 for a ST I would be demanding sucess

[Olly]

I agree with what you say but I still belive all negativety started the day the board ripped us off with ticket prices it made people bitter and rightly or wrongly want something for their money

I'm quite happy with Magilton because he is "manager" so I hope he is allowed to do his own thing , I'm quite lucky that I have a young family so I dont have a ST and just pick and choose last season I did 3 home games and 13 away but if I paid £600 for a ST I would be demanding sucess

Quite agree rangers, some people felt disrespected by it, others aren't bothered. It was lucky in one way the credit crunch happened, as I'm sure prices would have jumped quite a bit again.

However my ST was not too dear, even tho it went from £285 to £400(senior), and have renewed, but would have had serious reservations if it had gone up 10% or so this year. I've never booed any manager or players, but I have booed last season, and it was directed at the board.

At the end of the day it's entertainment, even if somewhat masochistic, and I will support the manager and players, just want to feel some bond with the owners, which is not there yet for me.

[bonkerrrrs]

I think we need to bring back some stability to the club from the fan base rather than all the in fighting!! The original post sums it up we need to back QPR 100%. There are bound to be ups and downs a long the way (and it wouldnt be QPR if there wasnt). But lets get behind them!

U rrrrr's

[nuffieldranger]

Scotyboy007 you are a genius everything you said is what i wanted to say but could not find the words, there seems to be so much negativity on the rounds at the moment it is unbelivable someone was slating the youth set up yesterday is there anything else left to moan about maybe the pies need a good slating,
I for one have had enough of the crap and feel we need to remember that as fans we hold a lot of responseabilty as well, many a footballer has said that whilst on the pitch they can feel good and bad vibes from the crowld which could affect them so come on lads and lasses lets get back to buisness come on you RRRRSSSSSSS!!!!!

[Ric-Roc]

If i've said it once i've said it a million times,if season tickets were £100 EVERY single fan would be over the moon.It's simply down to that and nothing else

[EYR]

If i've said it once i've said it a million times,if season tickets were £100 EVERY single fan would be over the moon.It's simply down to that and nothing else

£100 per season ticket wont cover many players wages

[Bigears]

100% agree ! until we the fans / players and the board get united we will always be divided and any success will take 3 times as long.

The only good thing i would say, if you put some of the negative posters in your ingore list its not so bad, and the sad part about it this is only 1 or 2 its just that they post all the time

Good post !

[Quaz]

Personal attacks on each other - i think all teams supporters fall out at sometime
Personal attacks on flavio - brings it on himself
Personal attacks on players - perhaps if they showed more fight all season might not have happened
Personal attacks on the new manager - don't agree with personal attacks hasn't done anything yet
negative opinions on just about anything about QPR - maybe because the negatives out weigh the positives

not everyone can cover the cracks and ignore the failings.

[3London]

If i've said it once i've said it a million times,if season tickets were £100 EVERY single fan would be over the moon.It's simply down to that and nothing else

i don't think so because we would have a team consisting of billy nohope and bobby endoftheline and then the moans would be why aren't we signing christiano bigstar and pablo twentygoals!

the extra money has paid for a better calibre of player the fact that these players under achieved is not the boards fault its the players and the managers responsibility to perform to the expectation of the fans and board

[Quaz]

i don't think so because we would have a team consisting of billy nohope and bobby endoftheline

so you think we don't have a few already

[Ric-Roc]

I think your missing the point i am making,it's simply down to the fact that the fans have a bee in there bonnet about having to pay a little over the odds,we have been to used to paying reasonable prices for years upon years and the new owners input finance wise which has led to price increases has put peoples noses out of joint.£100 was not a figure i was actually thinking was realistic pffft it was the point i was making

[Youvebeenrangered]

Yeah good post agree with all of that, you should post that on all message boards and spread those thoughts. I think alot of people would agree.