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  • This problem who is to blame..

    Right I understand the whole saga and what we are being pulled up on.

    But whatever punishment we get; ultimately who is to blame?

    Now I know GP has been charged individually alongside the club, so is that a separate or the same charge.

    Also the falsifying docs , who actually did it or handed them over incorrect.

    Who didn't tell the FA / FL about changes in the contract, and to what advantage was it by not doing so.

    This isnt a Paladini witch hunt, I just want to know who is ultimately responsible for what we may/may not get charged for?

    Nodge probably tell best.

  • #2
    Who fired Shelia, as this would not have happened if she was around.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by paulmason View Post
      Who fired Shelia, as this would not have happened if she was around.

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      • #4
        I understand that, but who made the mistakes we are being punished for?
        Sheila ain't here.

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        • #5
          Didn't Paladini fire sheila?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by paulmason View Post
            Who fired Shelia, as this would not have happened if she was around.
            Well I dont think we can blame Gianni for that as they are very good friends and she does not seem to hold any grudge against him at all though she is far too professional to say what really occurred

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            • #7
              Just to clear up two things

              Its not a question of falsifying documents..(far different from false documents)

              GP did not sack Sheila Marsden

              Not defending anyone, just those are the facts
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              • #8
                Originally posted by IsleworthRanger View Post
                Well I dont think we can blame Gianni for that as they are very good friends and she does not seem to hold any grudge against him at all though she is far too professional to say what really occurred
                That's all very nice, but the fact remains we would not have this hanging around, if she was still here, doing things in a profesional way.

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                • #9
                  So is it a junior admin girl that put us in this mess.. Who the hell is it?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by qblockpete View Post
                    Just to clear up two things

                    Its not a question of falsifying documents..(far different from false documents)
                    GP did not sack Sheila Marsden

                    Not defending anyone, just those are the facts
                    Just the sort of statement that wouldn't help us if made on a radio show.

                    For example.

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                    • #11
                      It is high time The FA to adapt its rules and regulations to the ones in the other European Football Unions and Associations!
                      Until 1-2 years ago The Football League had different regulations than The FA and they did allow us to sign and play Faurlin.
                      Why did they opened the case now? Why the decision is just a day before the final match?
                      There are too many Whys which will stay without any answer!
                      The FA makes fun of the R`s fans and the club!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by paulmason View Post
                        That's all very nice, but the fact remains we would not have this hanging around, if she was still here, doing things in a profesional way.
                        Not disagreeing with you at all mate and in my opinion she should still be at the club and the way she was treated was a disgrace but on this matter at least GP is innocent

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by qblockpete View Post
                          Just to clear up two things

                          Its not a question of falsifying documents..(far different from false documents)

                          GP did not sack Sheila Marsden

                          Not defending anyone, just those are the facts
                          There is very little diffrence in law, one relates to doctoring a document in order to comply and avoid detection, the other to pass off a document knowing it to be false in order to comply and avoid detection. A serious charge of the same degree and magtnitude either way but more so when in a position of trust.

                          On dismissal, well, as a very senior employee the person in question would have the right to have this matter addressed at two levels of management so the question is who was the reporting line. I would have thought the CEO before the Chairman. And that gives you the answer. As this was a senior employee it quite rightly should have been a matter of such magnitude to be considered by the Board and GP cannot have clean hands completely.

                          However as I suspect that the club was run as a personal fiefdom she was getting in the way of doing things that was above board and compliant with the rules and law, a certain individual used to getting his own way did at Board level. As this is no doubt at great expense to the club and indirectly us as fans and all covered by a legally binding Compromise Agreement we will never know. Time to move on.
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                          • #14
                            If we are docked and we don't get promoted,then whoever is to blame should NEVER be allowed near the club again,he should be sacked if our appael proves unsuccessful ,and for the first time I'm now also worried!

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                            • #15
                              well

                              well i blame the fa,because they are a jobsworth load of scunks
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