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  • #16
    Originally posted by Goddard View Post
    ... I have no clue as to how big the punishment could be.

    It's a charge (well, 7 actually) that have been brought against us, and we are the first club to face them under the current rules, which as far as I can see were ammended in 2009, AFTER the Tevez saga.
    So there is no precedent here to go by. It's a landmark case that will set the standard for future cases like this.

    I've heard of teams being kicked out of cup competitons for "fielding an ineligable player". That's a fact.

    So.... is, or has Faurlin ever been, an ineligable player for QPR?
    And was Tevez ruled ineligable?
    its a fine. end of story.

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    • #17
      Toni German are you a Chelsea fan undercover?You seem to be creaming yourself over an 18 point deduction when this wouldn't be the case,I don't think you're reading the black and white very well........

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      • #18
        Originally posted by LOOPYHOOP View Post
        Toni German are you a Chelsea fan undercover?You seem to be creaming yourself over an 18 point deduction when this wouldn't be the case,I don't think you're reading the black and white very well........
        Unfortunately, this has been the case forever with Mr German, amongst many. Some only seem happy to post about anything bad to do with the club.

        As much as I sincerely doubt Toni, and the rest would like this to happen, it does make you wonder how much they care about the clubs well being?!
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        • #19
          As far as I can see... we haven't gained any advantage, or fielded an ineligable player. (There's that key word again)


          Luton Town were done for many things, including making illeagal payments to dodgy agents, going into admin, and general crookedness.

          What QPR have to do is convince the FA that they haven't sought to gain any advantage, or fielded any ineligable player.
          And basically hold their hands up to making shoddy admin errors, but in good faith.


          IF (I repeat, IF) we are found guilty of these charges... Offer to pay any fine, and/or accept any suspended points deductions handed out to QPR FC.

          And make it clear that they will fight any actual points deductions through every court in England, and Europe if the FA decide to hand out a punishment that stops us achieving what the players, manager and fans have earned ON the field of play, purely because of an admin error/issue.
          And Gianni Paladini must hold his hands up as an incompetent, rather than dragging the club down with him by being defiant, and denying everything.

          No more cover-ups. Pay any fines. Take any medicine coming... as long as it's not too strong.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Goddard View Post
            As far as I can see... we haven't gained any advantage, or fielded an ineligable player. (There's that key word again)


            Luton Town were done for many things, including making illeagal payments to dodgy agents, going into admin, and general crookedness.

            What QPR have to do is convince the FA that they haven't sought to gain any advantage, or fielded any ineligable player.
            And basically hold their hands up to making shoddy admin errors, but in good faith.


            IF (I repeat, IF) we are found guilty of these charges... Offer to pay any fine, and/or accept any suspended points deductions handed out to QPR FC.

            And make it clear that they will fight any actual points deductions through every court in England, and Europe if the FA decide to hand out a punishment that stops us achieving what the players, manager and fans have earned ON the field of play, purely because of an admin error/issue.
            And Gianni Paladini must hold his hands up as an incompetent, rather than dragging the club down with him by being defiant, and denying everything.

            No more cover-ups. Pay any fines. Take any medicine coming... as long as it's not too strong.
            Top post, mate. As with the Tevez saga (I know...This one has dragged on for a while, before coming to fruition), this case would take ages to prove. By this time, we'll be in the Premiership. Couple that with the fact this is something which happened 2 years ago, to hand out a points deduction without any fightback from QPR, would simply not be able to go ahead.

            I stand by my initial thoughts...We'll get a fine. More than likely a large one, as well as a few court cases from other clubs affected, including Sheffield Wednesday, who will surely argue they could have kept their CCC status ahead of us, if given more than a 10 points deduction.

            This could prove very costly to QPR on a cash flow basis, but I sicerely doubt we'll see any points penalties imposed on us.
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            • #21
              I think the FA are saying that Faurlin was ineligible after the contract extension was dealt with in Sept 10 due to the incorrect information being amended in the original contract.

              Hopefully not.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Nodge70 View Post
                I think the FA are saying that Faurlin was ineligible after the contract extension was dealt with in Sept 10 due to the incorrect information being amended in the original contract.

                Hopefully not.
                I have no idea, mate.

                I'm not exactly clued up on these sort of situations, but as before, I cannot see anything being resolved this season. Business as usual on Saturday.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by BennyBoyRs View Post
                  I have no idea, mate.

                  I'm not exactly clued up on these sort of situations, but as before, I cannot see anything being resolved this season. Business as usual on Saturday.
                  I'd like to think that would be the case but I can't see it.

                  I hope the lads put on a good performance and claim the 3 points but this mess WILL be destructive. I feel gutted for warnock espically after what went on with the west ham/sheff utd incident.

                  He will definately retire if this goes against him and that could be a very very sad day.
                  I played sunday league football today.

                  Clearly I was the best player on the pitch.

                  I scored 5 and made 7 last ditch tackles.

                  We lost 5-0 but the rest of my team were sh it!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by BennyBoyRs View Post
                    Unfortunately, this has been the case forever with Mr German, amongst many. Some only seem happy to post about anything bad to do with the club.

                    As much as I sincerely doubt Toni, and the rest would like this to happen, it does make you wonder how much they care about the clubs well being?!

                    You have to realise that this user(Toni) have the best interests of the club at heart EVEN though his conclusion doesnt excatly match yours .

                    He is just as devastated as the rest of us are.
                    My view only!


                    OK??
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Shania View Post
                      You have to realise that this user(Toni) have the best interests of the club at heart EVEN though his conclusion doesnt excatly match yours .

                      He is just as devastated as the rest of us are.
                      My view only!


                      OK??
                      Of course I'm fooking devastated!

                      But I'm also trying to face up to the real possibilities instead of saying "It'll all be OK in the end".

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by LOOPYHOOP View Post
                        Toni German are you a Chelsea fan undercover?You seem to be creaming yourself over an 18 point deduction when this wouldn't be the case,I don't think you're reading the black and white very well........

                        Stop that nonsense will you!!
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by WeAreQPR12 View Post
                          I'd like to think that would be the case but I can't see it.

                          I hope the lads put on a good performance and claim the 3 points but this mess WILL be destructive. I feel gutted for warnock espically after what went on with the west ham/sheff utd incident.

                          He will definately retire if this goes against him and that could be a very very sad day.
                          I'd like to think that this will have a positive effect on the players. By positive, I don't mean they will find this a happy situation to be in, but I feel with the battling qualities in Hill and Derry, we will see this continue to rub off onto the rest of the squad, and make them fight harder for a larger points tally, come the end of the season.

                          I really fancy us to tonk Palarse now.
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