Ray Wilkins

[Nodge70]

Do what? This is getting surreal. By selling him perhaps?

And whilst at it, the core of the late 80 early 90 team might have had more to do with Parker and Mac donald being in front of Seaman with Wegerle and Sir Les. Later Sinton and Peacock perhaps.

Good grief. I am also done with this. Can't debate with fantasy. So I am off to see at least 2 and possibly 3 better midfielders play tonight and that is just on the Rangers side.

Wilkins only played 6 months with Seaman in the team - Nov 89 - May 90 - in that time Seaman missed 12 games anyway due to injury, replaced by Nicky Johns

Wilkins played one full season with Parker (90/91) of which Parker missed the entire back end due to a cruciate ligament injury sustained in the ZDS Cup game at Southampton.

Can't believe you truly believe that the form of Darren Peacock was more instrumental in that great side than Wilkins.

Stejskal

Bardsley
McDonald
Maddix
Wilson

Barker
Holloway
Wilkins
Sinton

Ferdinand
Penrice

Great side..........

[Jeffro]

Not really you called QPR a "below par team" - Easy question to answer..

IF WE WERE BELOW PAR , DO YOU BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE FINISHED HIGHER THAN 5TH??
There you go, nice and easy, no need to swerve the answer

[Jeffro]

Said I was done but with this thread can't resist this. When done laughing. Wilkins played about half of that season tops. When he played more games Rangers did worse. So you could even argue his absence helped us to finish 5th.
Ignoring it Les Ferdinand's finest season here. You know, they guy he later sold to relegate us.There - quantified. Done and dusted

Oh and one last thing...
Yes Wilkins insisted he went right, Sir Les was begging to stay but Wilkings demended he left??

Went something like that did it??

Made me chuckle today Stanley...And as for your avatar, im suprised you havent got Gary Thompson, going on your player ability judgement!!

[stanley75]

Not really you called QPR a "below par team" - Easy question to answer..

IF WE WERE BELOW PAR , DO YOU BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE FINISHED HIGHER THAN 5TH??
There you go, nice and easy, no need to swerve the answer

I am not swerving.anything. YTou haven't answered any question at all and just keep asking the sawme one. Which I have answerd. Here is the ladybird version for you.....

Actually I said he was OK in a below par team. His career here stretched over 5 years. Most of that time Rangers were struggling and no one could argue they were below par. Pretty sure it was 89 (we finished bottom half) 90 (bottom half), 91 (mid table), 92 (5th - as highlighted above this was the year he didn't play more than half and lo and behold Rangers did good!!!!!), 93 (back to playing a fuller part and we are mid table again)94 (played less again and we are top half)

Simple enough for you?

[stanley75]

Oh and one last thing...
Yes Wilkins insisted he went right, Sir Les was begging to stay but Wilkings demended he left??

Went something like that did it??

Made me chuckle today Stanley...And as for your avatar, im suprised you havent got Gary Thompson, going on your player ability judgement!!

I am thinking your avatar looks about spot on for you. Could only be improved if you could find one of an argumentative, rather clueless sheep perhaps.

[oldhoop]

I played against him at school when we were about 14. i tried to mark him in the centre of MF well let's put it this way it was then I realised that i wasn't going to make it as a pro footballer he was class. Scored 4 goals (1 a great header) and barely broke a sweat. i didn't get near him for the whole match!!!

Still blame him though for what he did in his time as manager with us.

[Jeffro]

I give up ...

We finished 5th in a team which Ray Wilkins playin in, which you call "below par"
You call finishing mid-lower "below Par"

Where exactly should we have finished??

SO once again i ask for the hard of hearing such as your good self..

One question, very simple..

SHOULD QPR HAVE FINISHED HIGHER THAN 5TH IF AS YOU SUGGEST WE WERE BELOW PAR?

Simple yes or No....

[stanley75]

Laughable. had your answer but keep asking it anyway. BTW i can see why the ladybird version whistled over your head as you seem to have a probelm with common terms in english. below par = less than average. I am pretty sure that finsihing lower half makes the team less than average and hence below par.

Can't debate with someone whoh can';t or won;t listen and who won't accept when they have received facts that should make them concede. You are not listening - the teamn that finished 5th was a better than par team but you ignore what was said origoinally and the fact that wilkins played little part in that result. when he did play the team did worse and finsihed bottom half every time he played the maority of games. ipso facto QED point proven and done. Going undrerground now ehich will cut the bberry off which is a blessed relief from these silly silly posts. On way to Rangers. you might want to think about it. some decent players on show.

[Jeffro]

Laughable. had your answer but keep asking it anyway. BTW i can see why the ladybird version whistled over your head as you seem to have a probelm with common terms in english. below par = less than average. I am pretty sure that finsihing lower half makes the team less than average and hence below par.

Can't debate with someone whoh can';t or won;t listen and who won't accept when they have received facts that should make them concede. You are not listening - the teamn that finished 5th was a better than par team but you ignore what was said origoinally and the fact that wilkins played little part in that result. when he did play the team did worse and finsihed bottom half every time he played the maority of games. ipso facto QED point proven and done. Going undrerground now ehich will cut the bberry off which is a blessed relief from these silly silly posts. On way to Rangers. you might want to think about it. some decent players on show.

Yes on the way there I shall think about the wonderful Jay Tabb, and how he far outclasses the Mere ray wilkins.

[SANDERSON8]

Jeffro your level of football knowledge.....yeah not your level id say quite a lot
higher.

Still never mind somebody had to like him.

The reason Hateley was brought south was because he was shagging some
glasregion gansters mrs and would have had his legs broken if he hadnt.

How do i know because i worked at Rangers.

Believe or not i dont really care

[The White City General]

Jeffro your level of football knowledge.....yeah not your level id say quite a lot
higher.

Still never mind somebody had to like him.

The reason Hateley was brought south was because he was shagging some
glasregion gansters mrs and would have had his legs broken if he hadnt.

How do i know because i worked at Rangers.

Believe or not i dont really care

Sounds it.

[Nodge70]

Jeffro your level of football knowledge.....yeah not your level id say quite a lot
higher.

Still never mind somebody had to like him.

The reason Hateley was brought south was because he was shagging some
glasregion gansters mrs and would have had his legs broken if he hadnt.How do i know because i worked at Rangers.

Believe or not i dont really care

Urban myth.

His son and family remained in Scotland and live there to this day.

[Dazzer1977]

Jeffro your level of football knowledge.....yeah not your level id say quite a lot
higher.

Still never mind somebody had to like him.

The reason Hateley was brought south was because he was shagging some
glasregion gansters mrs and would have had his legs broken if he hadnt.

How do i know because i worked at Rangers.

Believe or not i dont really care

Absolute tosh. Won't go too much not detail but this is laughable and complete nonsense. Funny how you keep referring to his managerial aspects when this is a post about Wilkins as a player!

[Dazzer1977]

Jeffro your level of football knowledge.....yeah not your level id say quite a lot
higher.

Still never mind somebody had to like him.

The reason Hateley was brought south was because he was shagging some
glasregion gansters mrs and would have had his legs broken if he hadnt.

How do i know because i worked at Rangers.

Believe or not i dont really care

Absolute tosh. Won't go too much not detail but this is laughable and complete nonsense. Funny how you keep referring to his managerial aspects when this is a post about Wilkins as a player!

[SANDERSON8]

Ask Alan Mcdonald,Danny Dichio,Ron Berry......