For those still moaning about the lack of a decent striker

[Stanley]

A few simple facts:

• Our goal difference is 30. The team closest to that is Forest with HALF that amount.
  
• We've scored 32 goals at home this season - the highest amount in the NPC.
  
• We've played 29 games and lost only 3.
  
• We've won more home games than any other team.
  
• On our travels we have lost fewer games than any other team.
  
• On our travels we have conceded fewer goals than any other team.

U R'S!!

[Yousef]

Not enough. I want Torres, Drogba and Carroll.

[Rebel R's]

We have done very well considering we don't have quality strikers no doubt BUT had we I also have no doubt we would have an extra 5-6 points and would be confident of automatic promotion which because we don't I'm not

[rodman]

A few simple facts:

• Our goal difference is 30. The team closest to that is Forest with HALF that amount.
  
• We've scored 32 goals at home this season - the highest amount in the NPC.
  
• We've played 29 games and lost only 3.
  
• We've won more home games than any other team.
  
• On our travels we have lost fewer games than any other team.
  
• On our travels we have conceded fewer goals than any other team.

U R'S!!

Hmmm. Tis true we sit handsomely at the top of the table as we have all season apart from one week.

Tis also true that all your stats above are correct, however one "fact" you seem to be missing is that our Strikers have managed 3 goals in open play between them.
Considering Hulses was an accident then we are talking 2 goals in 29 games.

Not too impressive eh.

Now, while we sit pretty at the top of the league and things are all going swimmingly at the mo, then we are all happy (apart from the terminal whingers) to enjoy the ride and see where we are in May.

But what happens when the Midfielders and Defenders slow down on the goals.

The best we could hope for away from home is a 0 -0 draw. The mids and defenders are quite rightly concentrating on their defensive duties.
Thats games and 2 more points that are winnable if we had Strikers that actually put the ball in the old onion net.

Basically we can't keep relying on the rest of the team to do the Strikers job.
Yes they also contribute more than just scoring goals like holding up the ball and bringing the others into play but at the end of the day they need to be scoring regularly to justify their job description of Striker.

Like I say, while it is all going well at the moment then long may it continue but it is a very tall order to expect the rest of the team to keep scoring the goals.
At some point I expect we are gonna need the Strikers to do their job and so far they have delivered very little.

[G.T.P]

hate these 'happy clappers v the whingers' posts so much.
our strike force is the worst in the league, nah sod it, the country.
our goal difference is down to adel and mackie and the excellent clean sheets from the defence and paddys wonder stops.
if we had a striker like graham or earnshaw who chipped in with a few goals, we would be near on home and dry now.
yes we are top, but nowhere near clear enough points wise away from the rest of the pack, but we would of been if we had a striker who had of scored 5 to 10 goals from open play, cos some of them would of been match winners in the 0-0's or score drawn games equaling lots more points.
so all this 'ner ner ner ner we dont need a striker so stop moaning' stuff does nothing for me.
cos we would of walked this league with one, and stevie wonder can see that.

[vblockranger]

hate these 'happy clappers v the whingers' posts so much.
our strike force is the worst in the league, nah sod it, the country.
our goal difference is down to adel and mackie and the excellent clean sheets from the defence and paddys wonder stops.
if we had a striker like graham or earnshaw who chipped in with a few goals, we would be near on home and dry now.
yes we are top, but nowhere near clear enough points wise away from the rest of the pack, but we would of been if we had a striker who had of scored 5 to 10 goals from open play, cos some of them would of been match winners in the 0-0's or score drawn games equaling lots more points.
so all this 'ner ner ner ner we dont need a striker so stop moaning' stuff does nothing for me.
cos we would of walked this league with one, and stevie wonder can see that.

good post m8 and agree 100%
just hope we dont end up regretting not spending the money on a decent striker
We have so many average ones at the club taking wages it seems we do quantity over quality as far as strikers go.
Board should have backed Warnock.

[James1979]

Not even sure if we had Eusebio "i score goals" Pele upfront, they'd have scored last night. Tough old night for a centre forward!

[G.T.P]

Not even sure if we had Eusebio "i score goals" Pele upfront, they'd have scored last night. Tough old night for a centre forward!

didnt need anyone too last night, adel did it all.
its when its 0-0 to shite away from home (or at home to millwall etc) we have missed an instinctive goal poacher to meet a cross with his head, or stick a leg out from a pass and hit the net.

[James1979]

didnt need anyone too last night, adel did it all.
its when its 0-0 to shite away from home (or at home to millwall etc) we have missed an instinctive goal poacher to meet a cross with his head, or stick a leg out from a pass and hit the net.

Hulse, Miller and Helguson are decent championship strikers imo. They're not going to be unstoppable but they are decent players. Hulse and Miller in particular just need to get the one goal and I'm sure the rest will follow.
Kitson is a quality player would like him, Chopra, Bothroyd....but other than that, which other championship clubs have crackign strikers?

[Rebel R's]

Over to you Stanley,not many agreeing with you

[SammyKojoe]

Hmmm. Tis true we sit handsomely at the top of the table as we have all season apart from one week.

Tis also true that all your stats above are correct, however one "fact" you seem to be missing is that our Strikers have managed 3 goals in open play between them.
Considering Hulses was an accident then we are talking 2 goals in 29 games.

Not too impressive eh.Now, while we sit pretty at the top of the league and things are all going swimmingly at the mo, then we are all happy (apart from the terminal whingers) to enjoy the ride and see where we are in May.

But what happens when the Midfielders and Defenders slow down on the goals.

The best we could hope for away from home is a 0 -0 draw. The mids and defenders are quite rightly concentrating on their defensive duties.
Thats games and 2 more points that are winnable if we had Strikers that actually put the ball in the old onion net.

Basically we can't keep relying on the rest of the team to do the Strikers job.
Yes they also contribute more than just scoring goals like holding up the ball and bringing the others into play but at the end of the day they need to be scoring regularly to justify their job description of Striker.

Like I say, while it is all going well at the moment then long may it continue but it is a very tall order to expect the rest of the team to keep scoring the goals.
At some point I expect we are gonna need the Strikers to do their job and so far they have delivered very little.

This sums it up perfectly. A fair few of our draws away from home would have been wins with a decent striker. Thankfully i think Taraabt is that good to keep scoring/providing goals for the rest of the season and take us up.

[G.T.P]

Hulse, Miller and Helguson are decent championship strikers imo. They're not going to be unstoppable but they are decent players. Hulse and Miller in particular just need to get the one goal and I'm sure the rest will follow.
Kitson is a quality player would like him, Chopra, Bothroyd....but other than that, which other championship clubs have crackign strikers?

keep hearing this about hulse, thought he had already got his one lucky goal of his shins?
how come none followed that then?

and you are right, i know , hulse, hh and miller are truly decent championship strikers, they have just not had the service.


oh and if you want to know which other clubs have cracking strikers, read this list.

Bothroyd Cardiff 15
Graham Watford 15
Becchio Leeds 13
Sharp Doncaster 12
Sinclair Swansea 12
Long Reading 11
McGugan Nott'm Forest 11
Morison Millwall 11
Holt Norwich 10
Iwelumo Burnley 10
King Leicester 10
Sordell Watford 10
Gradel Leeds 9

[Stanley]

Hmmm. Tis true we sit handsomely at the top of the table as we have all season apart from one week.

Tis also true that all your stats above are correct, however one "fact" you seem to be missing is that our Strikers have managed 3 goals in open play between them.
Considering Hulses was an accident then we are talking 2 goals in 29 games.

Not too impressive eh.

Now, while we sit pretty at the top of the league and things are all going swimmingly at the mo, then we are all happy (apart from the terminal whingers) to enjoy the ride and see where we are in May.

But what happens when the Midfielders and Defenders slow down on the goals.

The best we could hope for away from home is a 0 -0 draw. The mids and defenders are quite rightly concentrating on their defensive duties.
Thats games and 2 more points that are winnable if we had Strikers that actually put the ball in the old onion net.

Basically we can't keep relying on the rest of the team to do the Strikers job.
Yes they also contribute more than just scoring goals like holding up the ball and bringing the others into play but at the end of the day they need to be scoring regularly to justify their job description of Striker.

Like I say, while it is all going well at the moment then long may it continue but it is a very tall order to expect the rest of the team to keep scoring the goals.
At some point I expect we are gonna need the Strikers to do their job and so far they have delivered very little.

hate these 'happy clappers v the whingers' posts so much.
our strike force is the worst in the league, nah sod it, the country.
our goal difference is down to adel and mackie and the excellent clean sheets from the defence and paddys wonder stops.
if we had a striker like graham or earnshaw who chipped in with a few goals, we would be near on home and dry now.
yes we are top, but nowhere near clear enough points wise away from the rest of the pack,but we would of been if we had a striker who had of scored 5 to 10 goals from open play, cos some of them would of been match winners in the 0-0's or score drawn games equaling lots more points.
so all this 'ner ner ner ner we dont need a striker so stop moaning' stuff does nothing for me.
cos we would of walked this league with one, and stevie wonder can see that.

As highlighted, all of the above is 'ifs', 'buts' and 'maybes'.

Whatever we've actually done, its worked, and thats the point of the thread.

[G.T.P]

none of my points are 'ifs buts and maybes', a striker who scored a minimum of 5 or 10 goals from open play would mean more points.
its science, its nature, its quantam bloody physics. :drunk:

oh and its worked so far, but the wolves are chasing the leaders, and they are all chasing hard.

[vblockranger]

Hulse, Miller and Helguson are decent championship strikers imo. They're not going to be unstoppable but they are decent players. Hulse and Miller in particular just need to get the one goal and I'm sure the rest will follow.
Kitson is a quality player would like him, Chopra, Bothroyd....but other than that, which other championship clubs have crackign strikers?

Hulse has had all season for that "one goal to start off his run"
HH after a promising start is inconsistent and misses far too many easy chances
Miller looks unfit and very rusty and should be back to his best by the time his loan finishes...

We rely far too much on other areas to score our goals, 3 goals from our strikers in 29 games is pathetic.