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    Now if all the rumours are true and we do end up signing Routledge I for one will be happy with his return. Unlike Mackie and Smith he gives us an alternative which I believe Hulse and Helguson will benefit from. Between the two players they've contributed just 3 goals from open play and many are calling for their replacement but I believe having a player who can beat his full back and deliver the ball from closer to the byline will be a benefit to both players. In all sports there is a massive importance in getting the angles right. Currently whether it be Taraabt, Smith or (when fit) Mackie the angle of delivery is such that there is more pressure for the striker than when the ball is driven across the 6 yard box. Difficult to explain that one but think about what a striker has to do when the ball is delivered from the top of the box compared with a ball driven in front of them. I believe that with an alternative distribution we will see better results from both Hulse and Helguson.

    Now I'm now going to make a statement like that without backing it up and I'm certainly not going to compare Hulse and Helguson to Andy Carroll neither am I going to say that Wayne Routledge was the sole reason for Carroll's improvement at Newcastle last season in the Championship but I will state the facts of what happened when Routledge signed for Newcastle compared with what happened prior to his signing.

    Newcastle 2009/10:
    Match 1 to Match 25 - Prior to the signing of Wayne Routledge
    Goals Scored: 41 (1.64 goals a game)
    Andy Carroll: 4 goals

    Newcastle 2009/10:
    Match 26 to Match 46 - With Routledge at the Club
    Goals Scored: 49 (2.33 goals a game)
    Andy Carroll: 13 goals

    As I said I'm not going to compare the abilities of Hulse and Helguson with Carroll am I not saying that Routledge's arrival is the reason why Carroll starting banging them in or that Routledge has the quality to compete in the Premiership but Routledge was credited with 7 assists in those 21 matches and would have contributed in all round play which would have led to Carroll scoring so frequently. Newcastle scored more frequently, Routledge scored 3 himself (3 in 21 compared with 5 in 59 when with us and Cardiff) and Caroll scored 13 in 21 compared with just 4 in the previous 25.

    Coincidence or does Routledge just have that extra bit of quality at this level which could make a massive difference to the likes of Hulse, Helguson and the team as a whole?

  • #2
    Another cracker!!! Thanks for the stats!

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    • #3
      Agree about the angles. Remember when Crouchy was in the team we ended up launching diagonals from the half way line towards him rather than trying to get to the byline and pulling it back for him to run onto.

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      • #4
        Once again SirPie we all appreciate the stats. Hats off too to the man with common sense and footballing brain.

        Question for you SirPie and I'd like to take the opportunity to have a stab at answering it prior to getting an answer from you...

        Do/diid you play football to a fairly decent standard? If so, I reckon you was a midfield general?

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        • #5
          Great post, thanks for that. It makes far more eloquently my point of the other day that with tabs, routs and smith even a fairly workmanlike striker should be able to score a few goals. Hope Routs can do for Helgs what he clearly must have helped do for Carrol.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dazzer1977 View Post
            Once again SirPie we all appreciate the stats. Hats off too to the man with common sense and footballing brain.

            Question for you SirPie and I'd like to take the opportunity to have a stab at answering it prior to getting an answer from you...

            Do/diid you play football to a fairly decent standard? If so, I reckon you was a midfield general?
            Nah, I reckon he would be more one of those manager/ coaches who tho wasnt a brilliant player himself was an extremely good tactician. Just my guess - he's too bright to be a footballer...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by stainrodisalegend View Post
              Hope Routs can do for Helgs what he clearly must have helped do for Carrol.
              surely hes coming here for first team football and not to play in the ressies?

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              • #8
                Common sense football, well done pointing it out. Good to know the stats.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dazzer1977 View Post
                  Once again SirPie we all appreciate the stats. Hats off too to the man with common sense and footballing brain.

                  Question for you SirPie and I'd like to take the opportunity to have a stab at answering it prior to getting an answer from you...

                  Do/diid you play football to a fairly decent standard? If so, I reckon you was a midfield general?
                  I'm no weareqp12 if that's what you asking

                  Was Captain but played at the back not midfield - played Cricket at a higher standard than I ever did at football.

                  If you guys like the stats then I'll just keep posting them - wouldn't do it if it wasn't for you guys!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by sirpiechucker View Post
                    I'm no weareqp12 if that's what you asking

                    Was Captain but played at the back not midfield - played Cricket at a higher standard than I ever did at football.

                    If you guys like the stats then I'll just keep posting them - wouldn't do it if it wasn't for you guys!
                    You're posts I feel make me feel that you have a good reading of the game and that was where my last question came from. I always like reading your posts as they are well constructed and paints a good picture in my mind on how I see things in the footballing world - that's the enjoyment I get when having a read.

                    Keep em coming...
                    Last edited by Dazzer1977; 20-01-2011, 06:04 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Dazzer1977 View Post
                      You're posts I feel make me feel that you have a good reading of the game and that was where my last question came from. I always like reading your posts as they are well constructed and paints a good picture in my mind on how I see things in the footballing world - that's the enjoyment I get when having a read.

                      Keep em coming...
                      Thanks Dazzer.

                      If I'm trying to make a point I think it's always best to argue it with a stat or a simple fact. The stats aren't always going to paint an absolute true picture but it's better than arguing without substance, which a lot of people tend to and then backtrack (or ignore) when proven otherwise.

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                      • #12
                        Bumped as now relevant

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