Ledesma

[Nodge70]

Hulse, Smith, Bradley ORR, Moen, Tofas, Clarke, nothing to do with Warnock? Come on.

Sorry, yep Hulse and Orr. Smith & Moen questionable - Tofas and Clarke extremely doubtful that Warnock had much to do with those two. IMO.

[Givens]

I totaly agree with Goddard. And I belive Ledesma will do a great job.

[Goddard]

When youre told that you club has been bought out by Indians, who in turn place a whole new chairman and board, announce it in the press and official site, yet 6 months later find out the same people have owned us all along and one of them has now bought 62%, gives you every right to say " I Wonder" about anything at this club.

No doubt QPR are a riddle Jeffro, no doubt at all.
A lot of stuff doesn't add up, a lot of stuff makes me "wonder" too.

But I honestly do not think for one second that Neil Warnock is operating under the same set of rules/condition that Dowie, Magilton, Sousa etc.. were.

He just wouldn't do it. No way.
And in my opinion...that is as close to a "FACT" as you'll get on any thread, on any messageboard, at any club.

[haqpr1963]

When youre told that you club has been bought out by Indians, who in turn place a whole new chairman and board, announce it in the press and official site, yet 6 months later find out the same people have owned us all along and one of them has now bought 62%, gives you every right to say " I Wonder" about anything at this club.

Too true mate (Sadly)......

[sirpiechucker]

When youre told that you club has been bought out by Indians, who in turn place a whole new chairman and board, announce it in the press and official site, yet 6 months later find out the same people have owned us all along and one of them has now bought 62%, gives you every right to say " I Wonder" about anything at this club.

Totally agree. That's why I try hard not to get involved in all the threads about the boardroom stuff because I just don't know what to believe.

[Bluehoop]

Too true mate (Sadly)......

Who said the Club had been bought out by Indians? Yes they had bought into the club but it was always a minority holding - even Pete who gets a lot wrong expressed a view that the majority holding still remained with less desirable entities.
The new structure was clearly only ever an outward perception and even when Flabby went into hiding we all knew he still had a share!

There have never been any official announcements about take overs, buy outs or re-distribution of shares/ownership - so everthing that gets written and read on here and, more importantly, in the press is total conjecture and speculation and most of it is devisive from green eyed monsters and lazy journos who want to fill their pages with newsworthy drivel.

I'm sure there's a saying about not believing all you read and I know for sure there is one about it not being fact until it appears on the official site - if it has then I withdraw the above and apologise unreservedly for being so naive but otherwise I will leave the speculators to speculate and will remain a spectator that spectates.

[moon_safari]

Van der vart wasn't a arry signing which he freely admits.
The chairman said he was available are you interested, and look how that turned out.
In January managers all around the country are being offered players left right centre,
Probaly more so us cos of our position in the lg.
And for what it's worth ledesma did allright when he was here, but like hogan thought he was a little lightweight.

[qblockpete]

I'm not bad with rumours if true

End of the day, if he is back who said he is guaranteed a starting place?

Warnock will decide if he is good enough, one of our better players under Dowie, when we were doing quite well. Only an idiot wouldn't play him, based on the fact he was one of our better players at te time

[qpr]

Ledesma would be a Briatore/Paladini production

I do not want to claim to be ITK, but I know this for fact,
Gianni has told Warnock about Ledesma, and Warnock is going to take a look at him

So basiclly, it would be a Warnock signing ( But Gianni has recommend him to Warnock )

[Ric-Roc]

Who said the Club had been bought out by Indians? Yes they had bought into the club but it was always a minority holding - even Pete who gets a lot wrong expressed a view that the majority holding still remained with less desirable entities.
The new structure was clearly only ever an outward perception and even when Flabby went into hiding we all knew he still had a share!

There have never been any official announcements about take overs, buy outs or re-distribution of shares/ownership - so everthing that gets written and read on here and, more importantly, in the press is total conjecture and speculation and most of it is devisive from green eyed monsters and lazy journos who want to fill their pages with newsworthy drivel.

I'm sure there's a saying about not believing all you read and I know for sure there is one about it not being fact until it appears on the official site - if it has then I withdraw the above and apologise unreservedly for being so naive but otherwise I will leave the speculators to speculate and will remain a spectator that spectates.

Wasn't the supposed Mittal takeover on the offy? I may be wrong.

[Bluehoop]

Wasn't the supposed Mittal takeover on the offy? I may be wrong.

Can anyone answer this?
If I recall they never took over anything, merely bought a few more shares but those still meant they were very much minority holdings?
Help required please.

[californiahoop]

I do not want to claim to be ITK, but I know this for fact,
Gianni has told Warnock about Ledesma, and Warnock is going to take a look at him

So basiclly, it would be a Warnock signing ( But Gianni has recommend him to Warnock )

Makes sense

[MYU]

I only just deleted our mom votes for that season.

Ledesma was voted for man of the match for every game up until the last game he played, voted by us on here.

If this is true and Warnock didn't get the last say "He will walk", no questions about it.
If Warnock has the last say then we'll here no more about it, I'm sure Warnock must have seen the video's or watched him before agreeing to bring him here.

I would love Rowlands and Cookie given a chance as well.

[Ric-Roc]

I do not want to claim to be ITK, but I know this for fact,
Gianni has told Warnock about Ledesma, and Warnock is going to take a look at him

So basiclly, it would be a Warnock signing ( But Gianni has recommend him to Warnock )

I could live with that, exactly the same as every other manager in world football I would imagine.

[Dando]

i dont really understand what ledesma will bring to our team? Why do we need that kind of player? All of us can clearly see we need strikers and defenders for cover. I guess he would be a good squad player, but I dont think he is what we need when we are top of the league pushing hard for promotion