He never excited the fans that much. The fans were simply SPUN fluff from the club, they brought into it and with weeks he was found out and soon left. If he was really any good he would have been picked up by another decent side. Instead I will have to do some real digging around to find out who he plays for as I haven't got the foggiest where he is?
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POLL: Would Ledesma Get In The Side Now?
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Originally posted by Shania View PostI voted bench because,I think Warnock could have made Ledesma into a decent entertainer. Many posters on here thought he was quality, and he didnt get too many chances after the Carlisle match where he played fairly good.
I do also wonder wheter Hogan is so much better than Ledesma really?
Hogan is a useful squadplayer so why shouldnt Ledesma coached by Curle and Warnock obtained such a status as well?
Rude comments from the two posters above cant change my view. It seldom can..
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Originally posted by Dazzer1977 View PostHe never excited the fans that much. The fans were simply SPUN fluff from the club, they brought into it and with weeks he was found out and soon left. If he was really any good he would have been picked up by another decent side. Instead I will have to do some real digging around to find out who he plays for as I haven't got the foggiest where he is?
basically means if he does the business for Crotone he'll go back to Genoa
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Definitely bench in my opinionALL BEST BANTER AND ALL THE LATEST FROM QPR.
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weareqpr12
You really starting to pee me right off. Don;'t go all high and mighty on a poster.
This board is not solely yours, but the QPR fans base.
Minty's contribution to this board far outweighs your pointless attempts to bring people down and I won't tolerate it much longer. Don't reply on a post if you think its pointless, rather that than trying to belittle peopleALL BEST BANTER AND ALL THE LATEST FROM QPR.
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Originally posted by Shania View PostI voted bench because,I think Warnock could have made Ledesma into a decent entertainer. Many posters on here thought he was quality, and he didnt get too many chances after the Carlisle match where he played fairly good.
I do also wonder wheter Hogan is so much better than Ledesma really?
Hogan is a useful squadplayer so why shouldnt Ledesma coached by Curle and Warnock obtained such a status as well?
Rude comments from the two posters above cant change my view. It seldom can..
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Okay. Minty has calmed down now.
Here's the thing......
1) People don't read posts thoroughly
2) More than 50% of voters reckon Ledesma could be on the bench of our team
3) WeAreQPR12 & Jeffro.......If I were you, I'd be much more embarraSSed if I couldn't get basic spelling and punctuation right on a messageboard, than for putting up a simple question.
Don't try to put me down to make yourselves look clever. I work hard at being a decent citizen on WATRB (apart from this little slip-up....oops).
Ahh...that feels better.
Last edited by Minty; 29-11-2010, 05:00 PM.Be nice to Minty
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Originally posted by qblockpete View Postweareqpr12
You really starting to pee me right off. Don;'t go all high and mighty on a poster.
This board is not solely yours, but the QPR fans base.
Minty's contribution to this board far outweighs your pointless attempts to bring people down and I won't tolerate it much longer. Don't reply on a post if you think its pointless, rather that than trying to belittle people
Minty overreacted IMHO so I made a light hearted jesture.
You need to calm down Pete.I played sunday league football today.
Clearly I was the best player on the pitch.
I scored 5 and made 7 last ditch tackles.
We lost 5-0 but the rest of my team were sh it!
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Originally posted by WeAreQPR12 View Post-17 degress has taken its toll on you, as your a very strange individual.
You do realise that Shania is Norwegian, don't you?
Ignorance of the highest order.
Never mind the fact that she's one of the few females on here. Be a man and show some respect.Be nice to Minty
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I'm probs Ledesma's biggest fan, but he wouldn't get into the side.
Would be a cracking bench player though for sure.Under Les Ferdinand:
Luke Freeman, top assists in the league: 4million
Alex Smithies, great goalie for this club: 3,5million
Charlie Austin, 19 Premier League goals: 4million
Jack Robinson: Contract ran out, left for free
And many more mistakes
LES FERDINAND, IT'S TIME TO GO
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Originally posted by Ric-Roc View PostNothing wrong with this poll. People on here have discussed Ledesma recently & thought it was a fair question to ask.
I voted bench btw.I blew a lot on vodka and tonic, gambling and fags. Looking back, I think I overdid it on the tonic. - The one and only Stanley Bowles
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I liked Ledesma and like Minty's post. Always respect Dazzer's contributions but think there is some re-writing of history going on. At the time pretty well everyone was v excited by him. The commentator on Sky said something like "I've just seen the Championship player of the season, and his name is Ledesma". If I'm not mistaken there was a poll on here asking if we thought the club should take up its 3m (Euro?) option to buy him, and many were beside themselves when the club said it wasn't in any hurry to make it permanent.
The serious point in all of this is that the failure here of Ledesma shows the failure of English football. He clearly had a lot more natural ability than many other players in our squad. Unless his attitude was terrible (which I never saw any sign of) then our coaches should have done better (as Warno has done with Taraabt) to develop him into a hardworking, useful team player.
I would be very sorry if he doesn't make it to the big time as he had considerable talent and also came across as a very charming guy. I for one would rather him on the bench than Leon Clarke and think Warno could do great things with him.
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