Routledge To Cardiff City..

[qprted]

everyone knows

everyone knows i love routledge,but im not so sure he would fit into the neil warnock system,i would think that ambrose is more of a player that we could use in our system,also ive heard a rumour that if we get promotion this year
there already is an agreement that we can take walker for 5 million pound but this is only a rumour,and it has not come from an official sauce but i would buy walker for 5 million,and ambrose for 3 million if we go up

[sirpiechucker]

Over rated. But I would have said the same about Taraabt pre Warnock. The right manager will get the best out of Routledge just like Warnock is getting the best out of Taraabt where others have failed. But Hughton doesn't have the time or the experience to turn Routledge's potential into talent. Dave Jones does have the experience but does he need the player when he already has the talents of Burke and Bellamy?

Warnock could turn Routledge into a very good player but arguably so could Redknapp have turned Taraabt into a good player but didn't. So who knows. Wayne is 25 now and has played under numerous managers and none of them have turned that obvious potential into consistent performances. Jermaine Pennant is a couple of years older and in many ways is exactly the same - managers have struggled to turn his potential into talent as well and if Wayne isn't careful he'll be a few years older and still won't have established himself in any team and will leave no mark on the game when he hangs up his boots.

[Ric-Roc]

Over rated. But I would have said the same about Taraabt pre Warnock. The right manager will get the best out of Routledge just like Warnock is getting the best out of Taraabt where others have failed. But Hughton doesn't have the time or the experience to turn Routledge's potential into talent. Dave Jones does have the experience but does he need the player when he already has the talents of Burke and Bellamy?

Warnock could turn Routledge into a very good player but arguably so could Redknapp have turned Taraabt into a good player but didn't. So who knows. Wayne is 25 now and has played under numerous managers and none of them have turned that obvious potential into consistent performances. Jermaine Pennant is a couple of years older and in many ways is exactly the same - managers have struggled to turn his potential into talent as well and if Wayne isn't careful he'll be a few years older and still won't have established himself in any team and will leave no mark on the game when he hangs up his boots.

Another quality post SPC.

Have you by any chance any stats relating to WR' QPR career? Assists to games ratio for example. Although that was no doubt a much weaker team than we have now I'd be interested to know.

Personally I think he would benefit our team but he's been & gone so maybe best to leave it that way. Who knows.

[G.T.P]

The right manager will get the best out of Routledge

shame that the last 7 managers hes had couldnt get more than 8 goals in 125 games out of him isnt it eh.
None of them could of been 'the right' manager then. (if warnock had managed him he might of got 8 in 7 games like that useless mug mackie)
oh well, hopefully one day he will get a good manager whos good enough to unearth the maradonna like talent wayne posseses.

[Bluehoop]

I'd have Mackie over Routledge every time. Very interesting to hear that Jones doesn't intend to renew Burke's contract. In my opinion he is also a better player than Routledge - and I would far sooner have him than WR as well. I wonder if it has something to do with attitude as the general opinion of Burke is they are a far better side with him in it!

[sirpiechucker]

Another quality post SPC.

Have you by any chance any stats relating to WR' QPR career? Assists to games ratio for example. Although that was no doubt a much weaker team than we have now I'd be interested to know.

Personally I think he would benefit our team but he's been & gone so maybe best to leave it that way. Who knows.

09/10 - Game 1 to Game 24 - League Only
Appearances: All 24 Matches
Goals: 2 (Goal every 12 matches)
Assists: 8 (Assist every 8 matches)
Goals/Assists Total: 10 (Goal or Assists every 2.4 matches)

08/09 - Game 27 to Game 46 - League Only
Appearances: 19 Matches
Goals: 1 (Goal every 19 matches)
Assists: 5 (Assist every 4 matches)
Goals/Assists Total: 6 (Goal or Assists every 3 matches)

TOTAL QPR Career:
Appearances: 43 League Matches
Goals: 3 (Goal every 14 matches)
Assists: 13 (Assist every 3 matches)
Goals/Assists: 16 (Goal or Assists every 2.5 matches)

Quick comparison with Jamie Mackie - 18 matches, 8 goals and 2 assists a goal or an assist every 1.8 matches. Mackie can play right back where Routledge would hardly even track back let alone play in defence. Mackie's workrate both defensively and offensively means we have a tighter defence and are scoring more goals.

[sirpiechucker]

shame that the last 7 managers hes had couldnt get more than 8 goals in 125 games out of him isnt it eh.
None of them could of been 'the right' manager then. (if warnock had managed him he might of got 8 in 7 games like that useless mug mackie)
oh well, hopefully one day he will get a good manager whos good enough to unearth the maradonna like talent wayne posseses.

Well then Routledge will finish his career as nicely paid average footballer rather than a superstar that people earlier on in his career thought he had the potential to be.

I'm sorry that you think Mackie is a "mug" I'm not sure what he has to do to win over some of the fans. Scored the same amount as Taraabt having have to firstly defend and play as a defender which are two things Taraabt rarely does or wouldn't ever do at all.

[G.T.P]

i dont mate, i think mackie is a great all round footballer, that was directed at the people in the thread who would swap wayne for jamie.

[Ric-Roc]

09/10 - Game 1 to Game 24 - League Only
Appearances: All 24 Matches
Goals: 2 (Goal every 12 matches)
Assists: 8 (Assist every 8 matches)
Goals/Assists Total: 10 (Goal or Assists every 2.4 matches)

08/09 - Game 27 to Game 46 - League Only
Appearances: 19 Matches
Goals: 1 (Goal every 19 matches)
Assists: 5 (Assist every 4 matches)
Goals/Assists Total: 6 (Goal or Assists every 3 matches)

TOTAL QPR Career:
Appearances: 43 League Matches
Goals: 3 (Goal every 14 matches)
Assists: 13 (Assist every 3 matches)
Goals/Assists: 16 (Goal or Assists every 2.5 matches)

Quick comparison with Jamie Mackie - 18 matches, 8 goals and 2 assists a goal or an assist every 1.8 matches. Mackie can play right back where Routledge would hardly even track back let alone play in defence. Mackie's workrate both defensively and offensively means we have a tighter defence and are scoring more goals.

Interesting. SPC.

What I will say going by those stats is we can't judge Mackie until he has played the same amount games. He may not score again this season thus reflecting on his % ratio. I believe personally he will get 15 goals this season but looking at the stats maybe Routledge wasn't as effective as a few if us myself included thought. But as I said completely different team & management now so always the chance he could flourish. For the record I would have Mackie over Routledge any day of the week if only for his work rate & desire.

Thanks for compiling that, much appreciated.

[Chalet1882]

I dont know why ever1s so p'd off i think routledge at times was very lazy and very predictable. Jobi mcanuff is better than routledge and hes crap.

plus im not a beliver of going backwords im a beliver of going forwards

tommy smith, mackie, ephraim tarbs and buzacky can all do his role 10x better imo

[Hertford Hoop]

I dont know why ever1s so p'd off i think routledge at times was very lazy and very predictable. Jobi mcanuff is better than routledge and hes crap.

plus im not a beliver of going backwords im a beliver of going forwards

tommy smith, mackie, ephraim tarbs and buzacky can all do his role 10x better imo

I agree nutta

[Chalet1882]

i dont think routledge is a bad player i think what we need (what warnock wants) is a team of fighters

let me all remind you all of the derby goal as a prime example why we all know that mackie is a better player to have than routledge

wayne as fast and as skillfull as he is would of never got that goal nor any goal like it

mackie is not an out an out goalscorer but is a battler who runs his bolo-ks off for 90 minutes and gives his all knows his place

you wont get that wayne hes a money man hence all of the clubs he has played for

[QPR1234]

whilst ben arfa is injured and they dont have much in terms of a replacement. i dont expect routledge to go anywhere til january at least.

[kingy10]

Routledge is not a Warnock type player.

Tarrabt is our Routledge and in order to 'carry' the defensive duties of Adel, you need workhorses like Mackie, Derry, Faurlin and Smith/Ephraim.

I would rather have Adel and Mackie, and I really rate Routledge.

[Ric-Roc]

Routledge is not a Warnock type player.

Tarrabt is our Routledge and in order to 'carry' the defensive duties of Adel, you need workhorses like Mackie, Derry, Faurlin and Smith/Ephraim.

I would rather have Adel and Mackie, and I really rate Routledge.

Good post kingy & it makes sense when you look at the dynamics of our team.