Poor overcrowded stadium for the prem.

[Nodge70]

what does ER hold compared to SAR?

Due to buit up nature and proximity of housing - planning permission could be tricky. Especially as there are other big clubs nearby. Clubs tend to get special treatment oif they are the only one in the area/city.

Conversely LBH&F have in recent years given both Fulham and Chelsea extensive planning permission to develop their stadiums in similar built up areas. Plenty of precedent to cite there!!!!!!

[PeterG]

I reckon we topped 30k at LR perhaps 5 or 6 times, I very mouch doub it was more than that pop us into the premiership in a 30k seater in shepherds bush and I reckon we would average about 23 with sellouts for the london derbies and Man U

stick the stadium down the western ave between northolt airport and hillingdon and aour average would probably increase a bit

[Gerryhatrick]

As the OP, I'm not sure my point is being fully understood. Prob my fault for not explaining properly, so I'll put it another way.
As others have suggested and I agree, in the prem we could command gates of 23,000 for an average opponent, and close to maybe 27-30,000 for a top game like Chelsea or ManU, only if we had a stadium to take that many. But, our ground has a capacity of only 19,000, so it's a problem. Those are the facts.
So now put yourself in the shoes of the board, what do you do about it?
And this is my fear, One of the options is to hike up the admission prices to £45+ per game in order to do 2 things. 1. More turnover and profit from the same size crowd, and 2, capacity isn't increased because people can't afford increase so some drop away, and be replaced by those that can, so we don't actually increase support but control it against the limits of the current stadium. Meanwhile, it's then logically decided that we actually don't need a bigger stadium.
This could be a short term, unsustainable direction for the club, and we would quickly drop out of the prem again.

[Nodge70]

I reckon we topped 30k at LR perhaps 5 or 6 times, I very mouch doub it was more than that pop us into the premiership in a 30k seater in shepherds bush and I reckon we would average about 23 with sellouts for the london derbies and Man U

stick the stadium down the western ave between northolt airport and hillingdon and aour average would probably increase a bit

No - I think it would actually decrease and kill the corporate customer that is a vital ingredient in a PL clubs commercial take. Where we are now - excellent transport links to central London and the City - walk up trade from tourists and visitors. Good services from the north and south via Shepherds Bush Westfield station. It's where Fulham and Chelsea have been so successful and something we would need to drive too.

[silvercue]

you are forgetting that if we move to another stadium - that is the most sure fire way that prices will go up - to pay for it. They will never move to a bigger place to keep prices the same!!!

[Nodge70]

you are forgetting that if we move to another stadium - that is the most sure fire way that prices will go up - to pay for it. They will never move to a bigger place to keep prices the same!!!

You do it sneakily, like Arsenal did before the move to the Emirates. You ramp prices season after after season in the last few years at your old home and then make a great big hoo-ha about freezing prices in your fantabulous new ground. *

Simples


* Whilst charging £10 for chicken and chips and £4 a pint

[stan_bowles]

You do it sneakily, like Arsenal did before the move to the Emirates. You ramp prices season after after season in the last few years at your old home and then make a great big hoo-ha about freezing prices in your fantabulous new ground. *

Simples


* Whilst charging £10 for chicken and chips and £4 a pint

If we ever went down the Arsenal road i would stop going.I have a limit on how much i am willing to fork out to watch my club.Some prem club prices are insane.

[DelTrotter]

agreed stan, wouldnt pay £100 a game to see us play.

[surreyranger]

If we find ourselves in the premier league next season and we stay there for one season then a ground share beckons whilst Loftus Road is redeveloped.

[Olly]

given bernies fantasies, chelsea go to earls court, and we groundshare

[dave58]

I've been going for years in the mid 70s had gates in excess of 25.000 and maybe a dozen times over 30.000, for a team top of the league our gates are abysmal 13.000 last week ,also been to a lot of the new stadia built around the country some have great grounds with atmosphere,DERBY,SOUTHAMPTON others are like playing in a morgue i.e. COVENTRY READING. do we really need to be playing in a ground we can only half fill even if we built a new ground doubt if we would get over 25.000 to often so around 28.000 capaciyt would be enough not to create a morgue. would prefer an option of doing something at L/Rd second tier on ellerslie rd, may be a new stand with 3 tiers at the school end or thid tier on S.Africa rd

[G.T.P]

given bernies fantasies, chelsea go to earls court, and we groundshare

wont happen imo. loftus road has been good enough for the top division before and will be again.

[Gerryhatrick]

QPR have the 3rd worst capacity in the championship
When we get to the prem it will be the 2nd worst capacity.
In the '70's we did get 30,000 sometimes.
QPR are the 2nd wealthiest club in britain.
It just doesn't make sense, we used to be bigger than Chelsea/Spurs/Arsenal.
JUST BUILD IT, AND THEY WILL COME.

[dave58]

Bit deluded there never bigger than Spurs or Arsenal we were a bit bigger than Chelsea for a while but they always seemed to have more support than us, sadly we have lost a generation to the pull of the premiership with Chelsea & Fulham. the latter now getting gates in excess of 25.000 reg, which or who were propably Rs supporters at some stage but the lure of the premiership to big to compete with. Can never remember there being lots of Fulham fans around compared to now