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    .... if I actually am Clive Whittingham.

    The reason being, I seem to agree with almost everything he writes.
    I don't mean to do it... I just do. It's all very odd.

    Anyway... what I do know is that he writes a lot more betterer than wot I do, so I'll take the liberty of pasting his latest article on the hysteria that seems to be creeping across the MB's over the last week or two.
    People have differing views on QPR "stuff", which is fair enough. But all I can say is that I echo this:


    "Recent form has been fairly poor and has looked to be getting worse.

    Recent goal scoring form is poor, no-one can argue with that, and that needs sorting.

    We struck lucky with a couple of those draws, seriously, huge bits of luck. Bristol City in a false position? No. they are gash and we made them look reasonable.

    All credit to Kenny but two missed penalties and not beating the rock bottom of the division who looked almost respectable against us.....

    I fully expect Cardiff to finish at least ten points clear of us. They have more firepower than us and goals win matches.

    I don't know about you guys but my neck is hurting like **** with all this looking over my shoulder I'm doing at the moment.

    Did you see how Cardiff destroyed Leeds? They want to try and win games. They are not just content with not losing. Please stop being too frightened of success. They don`t play kick and rush football. They play with proven goal scorers. One up front is no good any more.

    For the millionth time and about the 50th time I have posted this thread in the past two years, we need a quality striker, otherwise forget about promotion. Once again this is not based on tonight’s performance alone but on the past five games where we have lacked up front in each game."



    Don’t panic dear reader, you have not logged into a Middlesbrough fan’s site by mistake. I am not sitting here in a Sheffield United replica shirt or gazing out of my window at what was once fortress Elland Road and wondering why we never received a trophy for being champions of Europe. I’m still huddled up next to the gas fire in LoftforWords Towers and I’m still writing about Queens Park Rangers who are still, though you’d never believe it, top of the Championship and unbeaten after 13 games.

    Unless I’m misunderstanding the concept, in which case please feel free to correct me at any point, "unbeaten" means we haven’t lost a game yet. We have taken to the field 13 times against 13 other teams and haven’t lost to one of them. We are, and again please get in touch if I’m missing a crucial point here, the best team in the league at this moment – The Football League has had the foresight to produce a table of teams charting their performance should a debate arise on this point.

    Nevertheless, posted above is a genuine list of actual posts made by QPR fans on LoftforWords and We Are the Rangers Boys since Bristol City had the audacity to take a point from us on Friday.

    I’d like to criticise the Chelsea fans for their appalling attitude to their own team when it “only” beat Wolves 2-0 at home on Saturday but it seems we’re heading down the same road. I’m starting to wonder whether it might have actually done us some good to lose a couple of games early on, to sit a few places lower, to keep expectations in check.

    There have been message board calls to rest Hogan Ephraim and, unbelievably, Jamie Mackie. Calls for team changes, for formation changes, for Kyle Walker to be moved forward, for more signings to be made. People want Adel Taarabt (divisional player of the month for August) dropped because he was awful on Friday night, even though he was very good indeed at Swansea just three days earlier – watch the wonderful team spirit we currently have take a nosedive if we start dropping everybody that has one bad game. People lament the fact we didn’t sign Danny Shittu who will now apparently further enhance an excellent Millwall defence – this a defence that conceded two more goals in a game with Watford than we have shipped in the entire season.

    We all seem to be getting a little bit hysterical - just imagine the outpouring of grief that will follow the inevitable defeat when it comes.

    For the record I’d like to see Tommy Smith start instead of Hogan Ephraim this weekend – but if he doesn’t I’ll understand. I also don’t think we’ll finish top at the end of the season, and I’m not even sure we’ll finish second, and this thought doesn’t bother or worry or distress me greatly and I won’t cry and gnash and demand changes and action if we do lose a few and drop down to fifth or sixth because it’s much more than I thought we’d be able to manage. At the start of the season I didn’t even think we’d make the play offs so I have been absolutely delighted with everything I have seen so far. Bristol City is the first thing we’ve had that’s anything close to a bad result – the three other draws coming against the teams currently placed third, fourth and twelfth. Norwich and Swansea are flying at the moment and we came away from both unbeaten, without conceding. Fine results in my opinion, a loss of form according to others.

    Here’s an absolute bombshell for you – we’re going to lose a game at some point, possibly as soon as this Saturday. We might, at some point, drop off the top spot in the table. Neither of these things are reasons for wholesale team changes, widespread panic, or mass hysteria – those are things that should be saved for runs like, say, one win in 15 games taking you from fourth in the table to 19th which, come to think of it, is exactly the position we were in 27 games (and just four defeats) ago when Neil Warnock took over. That’s worth remembering whenever the words “we could only draw with…” are about to pass your lips.

    Adel Taarabt should not be dropped. If we dropped him every time he had a bad game there would be no point in having him – we’d be dropping him every four starts or so and he’d very quickly get the hump and stop performing altogether. I think he suffered last week with the fans because he played well on Tuesday when there were 400 of us there, then had a mare at Bristol City when three times as many travelled and many thousands more watched on the TV. If he’d been poor at Swansea and great at Bristol I doubt these calls for him to be shifted out would be being made. He didn’t, but they still shouldn’t be happening in my opinion. He was terrible on Friday, and he might be crap again this Saturday, or he might be brilliant. You cannot predict him and it’s that inconsistency that keeps him at QPR rather than elsewhere. Even when he’s awful he draws three or four opponents to him so he’ll always serve a purpose.

    This idea that Taarabt, and the team as a whole, should be able to play like he, and they, did in August consistently for an entire season is completely unrealistic. Dips in form, if you can call one bad game from Taarabt and three draws in four games from the team a dip, should not be treated as a crisis regarding immediate changes. It’s the fact that we have a settled side that is at the heart of the success this season.

    But why do I care? I can moderate the message board without really taking in what’s being said and just not respond to this crazy talk. People say things I don’t agree with and that’s their opinion and we’ll never agree so let’s just leave it at that.

    Well, to some extent, fair enough. The problem I have though is we now have two very difficult home games against Burnley and Reading. They are important if we want to maintain our position at the top of the table but to win them both is going to take something quite special and, I would suggest, it’s unlikely. Four points would be a good return in my opinion.

    To get four, or hopefully six, points from Burnley and Reading we are going to need to continue a run of unbeaten home matches that stretches back to May and includes an unblemished defensive record in six matches. At the start of that run we beat Barnsley 4-0 and I would describe the atmosphere at Loftus Road that day as relaxed and expectations as low. That atmosphere has slowly been corroded ever since and I worry that expectations are now so high and so unrealistic that we’re going to see a return to the dark days in W12 when some thought money in the boardroom automatically meant immediate success and roundly and routinely abused the QPR players unable to deliver weekly 3-0 victories. There was a real feeling around the ground against Norwich that people were just sitting on their hands and waiting for Rangers to sweep aside the Canaries – a very competent team in their own right – rather than creating an atmosphere that would help make it happen.

    Cardiff have got Craig Bellamy, Jay Bothroyd, Michael Chopra and Andy Keogh to pick from in attack. Only Taarabt can hold a candle to any of those players. We’re not meant to finish above Cardiff this season – revel in the fact that we’re leading the way ahead of them at the moment, rather than panicking that it might not continue.

    My big fear is that Burnley or Reading score first in the next couple of games, and that starts the moaning and groaning, which in turn contribute towards a defeat, which sours the atmosphere still further and it becomes a self perpetuating thing.

    This is a very good QPR team. Not an exceptional one, or a brilliant one, just a very good one. It works hard, and it’s good to watch, it has different approaches it can take when games aren’t going to plan, it tries its best in every game and it’s top of the league table. It’s a QPR side to be proud of and one that deserves our support and even when it loses games and falls down the table a little that won’t change. It’s a team that is yet to see anything of Tommy Smith, Rob Hulse and Martin Rowlands so it’s a team that could still improve as well.

    Let’s please not burden it with our expectations and, frankly, trivial complaints in the coming fortnight. We have a big part to play.





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    Message for all moderators

    Mr Whittingham seems an exemplar of

    When dealing with the insane, the best method is to pretend to be sane.

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    • #3
      "My big fear is that Burnley or Reading score first in the next couple of games, and that starts the moaning and groaning, which in turn contribute towards a defeat, which sours the atmosphere still further and it becomes a self perpetuating thing"

      If the team are playing well and we go 0-1 down, I can not see anybody moaning because that's life and people accept that. The time the I can see the moaning starting though will be when we go 0-1 down, not playing well and nothing is done to change the system, for whatever reason, which is the same for any other club in the world. (But I guess as its QPR, that would not be allowed)

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      • #4
        Waaaaaay too much sense being spoken there. This MB is for negativity and finding new reasons as to why QPR are finished, and Cardiff are the new super power in World football.

        It's true, don't you know.
        Your mum would love me...

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        • #5
          Fantastic piece of writing which I was actually going to post on here myself. His explanation of the Taarabt situation is first class and his execution and reasoning within the article really gives a true overview and puts a few on here to shame.

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          • #6
            Unless I’m misunderstanding the concept, in which case please feel free to correct me at any point, "unbeaten" means we haven’t lost a game yet. We have taken to the field 13 times against 13 other teams and haven’t lost to one of them. We are, and again please get in touch if I’m missing a crucial point here, the best team in the league at this moment – The Football League has had the foresight to produce a table of teams charting their performance should a debate arise on this point.


            What a fantastic paragraph, again really showing up the Cardiff lovers' on here for the misunderstood views which they harbour.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jeffro View Post
              Unless I’m misunderstanding the concept, in which case please feel free to correct me at any point, "unbeaten" means we haven’t lost a game yet. We have taken to the field 13 times against 13 other teams and haven’t lost to one of them. We are, and again please get in touch if I’m missing a crucial point here, the best team in the league at this moment – The Football League has had the foresight to produce a table of teams charting their performance should a debate arise on this point.


              What a fantastic paragraph, again really showing up the Cardiff lovers' on here for the misunderstood views which they harbour.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jeffro View Post
                Fantastic piece of writing which I was actually going to post on here myself. His explanation of the Taarabt situation is first class and his execution and reasoning within the article really gives a true overview and puts a few on here to shame.
                I love this new upbeat Jeffro!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jeffro View Post
                  Unless I’m misunderstanding the concept, in which case please feel free to correct me at any point, "unbeaten" means we haven’t lost a game yet. We have taken to the field 13 times against 13 other teams and haven’t lost to one of them. We are, and again please get in touch if I’m missing a crucial point here, the best team in the league at this moment – The Football League has had the foresight to produce a table of teams charting their performance should a debate arise on this point..
                  Yes it is true QPR are unbeaten, but QPR and 2nd place Cardiff, have played the same amount of games and scored the same amount of goals. So the fact we are unbeaten and have a new club record is fantastic, but every one knows it would is better to win one then looses one, compared to drawing both.

                  PS: I have a great deal of respect for Clive and his mag is tops, but just because you write something that reads nice and positive, does not make it correct.
                  Last edited by paulmason; 27-10-2010, 10:46 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by paulmason View Post
                    Yes it is true QPR are unbeaten, but QPR and 2nd place Cardiff, have played the same amount of games and scored the same amount of goals. So the fact we are unbeaten and have a new club record is fantastic, but every one knows it would is better to win on then looses one, compared to drawing both.

                    PS: I have a great deal of respect for Clive and his mag is tops, but just because you write something that reads nice and positive, does not make it correct.
                    Paul with that piece it is not just nice and positive , it is FACTUAL. Unlike most of the tripe posted by Cardiff lovers like GTP etc.

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                    • #11
                      geezers eloquent and has been to college to learn how to write proper, but i dont agree with his well paragraphed hippy ramblings.

                      I also don’t think we’ll finish top at the end of the season, and I’m not even sure we’ll finish second, and this thought doesn’t bother or worry or distress me greatly and I won’t cry and gnash and demand changes and action if we do lose a few and drop down to fifth or sixth because it’s much more than I thought we’d be able to manage. At the start of the season I didn’t even think we’d make the play offs so I have been absolutely delighted with everything I have seen so far

                      thats you mate, thats your opinion, not finishing second does worry and distress some of us greatly, cos loads of us did and still do expect to go up as automatic, and many more did expect us to make the play offs at the very least seeing as we have one of the best managers in the league and a great team.
                      epic fail.
                      get your tounge out his arris jefferey

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                      • #12
                        Agree with pretty well all of that article. However, on the positive/ negative indicator it does also say that we have virtually no chance of finishing above Cardiff (it being "their year") and also says he is far from certain we will finish top two with even the play offs very much to be fought over. If he is right then the happy pill brigade are just as wide of the mark as all the boring doom and gloom merchants.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by G.T.P View Post
                          geezers eloquent and has been to college to learn how to write proper, but i dont agree with his well paragraphed hippy ramblings.

                          I also don’t think we’ll finish top at the end of the season, and I’m not even sure we’ll finish second, and this thought doesn’t bother or worry or distress me greatly and I won’t cry and gnash and demand changes and action if we do lose a few and drop down to fifth or sixth because it’s much more than I thought we’d be able to manage. At the start of the season I didn’t even think we’d make the play offs so I have been absolutely delighted with everything I have seen so far

                          thats you mate, thats your opinion, not finishing second does worry and distress some of us greatly, cos loads of us did and still do expect to go up as automatic, and many more did expect us to make the play offs at the very least seeing as we have one of the best managers in the league and a great team.
                          epic fail.
                          get your tounge out his arris jefferey

                          In fairness GTP you were giving it so large earlier in the season you seemed to be suggesting we would win everything bar the Champions League...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by stainrodisalegend View Post
                            In fairness GTP you were giving it so large earlier in the season you seemed to be suggesting we would win everything bar the Champions League...
                            erm, by that i hope and think you mean definite automatic promotion, and i still do think that.

                            only spanner in the works is that ive just had winning the championship trophy cruelly ripped from my expectations, by a side who have been built for years and experienced enough to get it right this time.

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                            • #15
                              Excellent article.

                              The only thing I would say, after the start we've had would be disappointed if we only made the Play offs, as now is the time to push on.
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