may i remind you

[Chalet1882]

goto rangers and have a good time i smoke yes doesnt mean i cant see whats happening???

thats what i mean mate

i still dont get why helgasun didnt jump in the air and we could of won that game on friday!!

[E6 Ranger]

Wow.

[G.T.P]

And for GTP to imply that the intelligent people get nervous, and the less intelligent people see that as moaning, is an unfair generalisation.
None of us are particularly happy with the dip in form, but some of us can see it for what it is -- a dip in form.
Temporary.
Doesn't make us "less intelligent".
I know some of the so-called "less intelligent" and they are anything BUT that.

the intelligent and less intelligent bit was just a mickey take for effect, i wasnt being serious. (i do that quite a lot, it gets good threads like this going along at a right nice pace)
but i would say that i think someone is a tad short up top if they think this lack of goals is merely a dip in form, cos its so plain that heider helguson and jamie mackie will not score enough goals to get us promoted.
their start was brilliant but was never going to last, they palyed above their abilities and the whole team was doing so as well, and now the drought will last a lot longer than the 3 and 4 goals a game.
things need changing for automatic promotion, and its only my opinion, but one im really certain of.

[swanleyhoop]

the intelligent and less intelligent bit was just a mickey take for effect, i wasnt being serious. (i do that quite a lot, it gets good threads like this going along at a right nice pace)
but i would say that i think someone is a tad short up top if they think this lack of goals is merely a dip in form, cos its so plain that heider helguson and jamie mackie will not score enough goals to get us promoted.
their start was brilliant but was never going to last, they palyed above their abilities and the whole team was doing so as well, and now the drought will last a lot longer than the 3 and 4 goals a game.
things need changing for automatic promotion, and its only my opinion, but one im really certain of.

No, you are very wrong there, and proved that your original slight wasn't a mickey-take, but your true belief.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion, and only time will tell which opinion is right.
Denouncing people as being unintelligent because they don't have the same opinion as you is unfair.
If we all thought the same the world would be dull and message boards pointless. But it's important to respect different views, not insult people for having them.

[G.T.P]

sory mate, but any man who watches football and thinks helguson is a striker to fire a team into the prem, then i seriously doubt and challenge thier football intelligence., hes not good enough, and hes proved it time and time again , and will do so again this season.
as you say time will tell, and im ready to hold my hands up and say im the thick one if im proved wrong by him. (but im so safe in the knowledge i wont be)

[WeAreQPR12]

No, you are very wrong there, and proved that your original slight wasn't a mickey-take, but your true belief.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion, and only time will tell which opinion is right.
Denouncing people as being unintelligent because they don't have the same opinion as you is unfair.
If we all thought the same the world would be dull and message boards pointless. But it's important to respect different views, not insult people for having them.

Very good point and please try to practise what you preach in future Swanley, thanks.

[WeAreQPR12]

sory mate, but any man who watches football and thinks helguson is a striker to fire a team into the prem, then i seriously doubt and challenge thier football intelligence., hes not good enough, and hes proved it time and time again , and will do so again this season.
as you say time will tell, and im ready to hold my hands up and say im the thick one if im proved wrong by him. (but im so safe in the knowledge i wont be)

Unfortunately he is a 'she'.

Hope that helps explain it GTP

I did discuss this with Myu but he feels this board should be for all sexs etc.

[swanleyhoop]

sory mate, but any man who watches football and thinks helguson is a striker to fire a team into the prem, then i seriously doubt thie football intelligence., hes not good enough, and hes proved it time and time again,a nd will do again this season.
as you say time will tell, and im ready to hold my hands up and say im the thick one if im proved wrong by him. (but im so safe in the knowledge i wont be)

I'm not your mate.
And, again, some of the people you are denouncing are extremely knowledgeable people.
You can doubt their undoubted intelligence all you like, but you are wrong about them.
And, if you look back, most of them are not necessarily saying that HH can do this on his own, that we need back-up, and always have.
But HH gives the midfield the opportunity to work so much better -- it is up to them whether they respond to that, and in the last few games, they haven't been.

[swanleyhoop]

Unfortunately he is a 'she'.

Hope that helps explain it GTP

I did discuss this with Myu but he feels this board should be for all sexs etc.

Why should being a "she" make any difference?
Brought up with a father who ran a boys football club,(joined in with training etc.), and was himself a qualified ref and football coach, as am I.
Have had successful junior teams over the years.
Been watching professional football for 43 years, 42 of those following Rangers, only miss 2-3 games a season.
So why should being a "she" make any difference?
(And I can't believe you went to MYU about women posting!)

Luckily, most of the men at Rangers who know me will happily talk to me and have respect for my knowledge and experience -- and most people will on this message board too, whether they know I'm a "she" or not.
The main problem with this message boards is some of the "he's", not me.

[Kirill]

(And I can't believe you went to MYU about women posting!)

I think it was meant as a joke. The more female supporters feel comfortable discussing QPR online, the happier we all are, I am sure!

[swanleyhoop]

I think it was meant as a joke. The more female supporters feel comfortable discussing QPR online, the happier we all are, I am sure!

Unfortunately, Kirill, I don't think they're joking.

[Kirill]

Unfortunately, Kirill, I don't think they're joking.

I can vouch that none of the admins/mods here would not even think of such discrimination. We try to keep this place friendly and open to all non-abusive posters. I am sure WeAreQPR12 will be only too happy to confirm that this was a joke and he never discussed this with MYU.

[G.T.P]

I'm not your mate.
And, again, some of the people you are denouncing are extremely knowledgeable people.
You can doubt their undoubted intelligence all you like, but you are wrong about them.
And, if you look back, most of them are not necessarily saying that HH can do this on his own, that we need back-up, and always have.
But HH gives the midfield the opportunity to work so much better -- it is up to them whether they respond to that, and in the last few games, they haven't been.

sorry, i didnt mean to call you mate, a slip of the keyboard. dont have a strop eh, calm down a little bit id say.

your knowledge is nothing to me, you talk gobbledygook to my ears.
helguson is not good enough, he wasnt good enough when we palmed him off to watford and isnt now.
when you play a loan striker, you need him to score goals not to give the midfield the opprtunity to work so much better.
oh and by the way, if hes doing this, how come none of them are scoring anymore either?
the bare facts are that we need hulse to get out there from now to january and show if hes good enough, cos if hes not, then we HAVE to buy again.
its the premiesrship this season at all costs.

[Chalet1882]

Why should being a "she" make any difference?
Brought up with a father who ran a boys football club,(joined in with training etc.), and was himself a qualified ref and football coach, as am I.
Have had successful junior teams over the years.
Been watching professional football for 43 years, 42 of those following Rangers, only miss 2-3 games a season.
So why should being a "she" make any difference?
(And I can't believe you went to MYU about women posting!)

Luckily, most of the men at Rangers who know me will happily talk to me and have respect for my knowledge and experience -- and most people will on this message board too, whether they know I'm a "she" or not.
The main problem with this message boards is some of the "he's", not me.

w12 and gtp have a "insult first apolagise later card" i wouldnt let it phase you lol these boys are untouchables