Helguson

[Ginger Ninja]

wonder how he feels knowing hes only a week or so away from never starting as first choice again.

and why would that be the case?

[brightonr]

Has he passed his medical yet ?

[G.T.P]

and why would that be the case?

hes done better than most could of expected, but i think hulse is a much better player and will walk into the team when hes fit. im certain he wasnt brought as a sub.
i know helgusons all round game has been muuch better than usual but he hasnt scored a hatfull from open play that would prevent a star buy from making the team imho.

[sirpiechucker]

hes done better than most could of expected, but i think hulse is a much better player and will walk into the team when hes fit. im certain he wasnt brought as a sub.
i know helgusons all round game has been muuch better than usual but he hasnt scored a hatfull from open play that would prevent a star buy from making the team imho.

Arguably Smith wasn't bought as a sub either though.

[G.T.P]

Arguably Smith wasn't bought as a sub either though.

agreed, but main centre forward is a whole different ball game tho, like keeper.

[sirpiechucker]

agreed, but main centre forward is a whole different ball game tho, like keeper.

How though?

Hulse will after coming back from injury need to prove himself whereas Helguson is playing well in a winning side. If Warnock takes the attitude of awarding playing on the past achievements rather than their current form then I'll eat ted's dog.

[G.T.P]

my guess is one game as sub when fit for the last 10/15 minutes and then in the next game.

[oldhoop]

Hey isn't this brilliant last season we had no strikers (well 1 on loan) and this esaon we are debating who should play (when fit) out of Helguson, Hulse, Smith, Clarke and Smith (and of course Dave)

It was only a short while ago when we were all looking jealously at Forest and thier choices up front. Oh how things have changed!!!

Having HH firing on all cylinders is like having a new signing. Tha's why NW is already a legend, he's looked at Heider and thought "hold on I can do something with this lad" and so it as turned out. No-one saw that coming!!!!!

[stainrodisalegend]

Agree with Sir Pie, no reason to drop Helguson, he's been superb so far this season. By all means introduce Hulse later on in games as Buz was but from there its upto Hulse to score and make the goals that makes him impossible to leave out. Of our existing players Helguson has to be our most transformed player this season.

[ILTA]

I am glad G.T.B. is not our manager.
Just imagine the same team but Hulse starting for HH against Doncaster and scoring a goal but we loose 1-2. What will people say then.
And remember that fewest goals in a match we have scored so far is 2.

[MYU]

Like most of you say we should not drop any current player unless injured, we are winning games and let's make everyone fight for a place.

[G.T.P]

I am glad G.T.B. is not our manager.
Just imagine the same team but Hulse starting for HH against Doncaster and scoring a goal but we loose 1-2. What will people say then.
And remember that fewest goals in a match we have scored so far is 2.

hes scored four in seven (two from pens) which is impressive, but the penalties will dry up, and i reckon so will his goals by the time hulse is fit, hence him out and hulse straight in. its just my guess and maybe a bit biased cos i dont really rate him.

[mccoyranger1]

hes scored four in seven (two from pens) which is impressive, but the penalties will dry up, and i reckon so will his goals by the time hulse is fit, hence him out and hulse straight in. its just my guess and maybe a bit biased cos i dont really rate him.

I make it 3 penalties (Barnsley, Boro and Ipswich). One in open play (Scunny). Which doesn't look so impressive to me.

[Stedders]

Helguson is not a 20 a season man necessarily, he will of course scores goals but he keeps the ball in their half, he relieves pressure, he wins headers, he links in other players who then have possession in dangerous areas. A really great team player.

[G.T.P]

but we have just brought a 20 goal a season man havent we?
wouldnt it be madness to not play someone who scores rather than someone who wins headers and holds up the play.