Adel and his 'attitude problem'

[WeAreQPR12]

I have to disagree with Spence and Pete on this ocassion. I don't think we can blame the fans for getting upset when he could of just threaded through a simple pass for Buzz to tap in. I will be pleased if we sign Adel but we don't want a repeat of that. Buzz is a VERY good player and Adel will have to learn when to pass and when not too.

[Minty]

I was shocked by Taarabts attitude issues last season, however, I think that a permanent deal will settle him and he won't constantly be thinking he's better than QPR and expecting a move to a 'bigger' club all the time.

In Warnock we trust!

[WeAreQPR12]

good post minty.

[RussRanger]

Adel is a great player at this level and I welcome him.

Not sure if he has an attitude problem just think he treads a very fine line between having immense confidence in his ability - which he should have - and arrogance - which he shouldn't.

Pretty sure Warnock will sort it and we'll see the best of him, hopefully without the tantrums and dummy spitting.

[Spencer]

I have to disagree with Spence and Pete on this ocassion. I don't think we can blame the fans for getting upset when he could of just threaded through a simple pass for Buzz to tap in. I will be pleased if we sign Adel but we don't want a repeat of that. Buzz is a VERY good player and Adel will have to learn when to pass and when not too.

I understand what you are saying weareqpr - but some fans are more educated than others.Some fans will moan just for the sake.Sh.t i have sat next to fans that moan because the grass isn't green enough..

I'm hoping that like Minty has said, now that he has found a team and a manager who wants him, maybe he will settle down.That said - if you take too much of his"attitude" out of him,do you lose some of his falir on the pitch...Bit like the Roy Keane and Ian Wrights arguemtns etc..

[WeAreQPR12]

Yeah fair point. I don't want him to lose the swagger but I don't think fans should be told off because the score at barnsley was irrelevant, as that kind of thing is very bad for team spirit. If he only had aygemang out wide that can be forgiven but a player of Buzz's class is a different story.

[stanistheman]

A certain poster on here has spent the past 6 months launching a venomous tirade at Adel Taarabt and his supposed 'attitude problem' and it has got me thinking how do we define an attitude problem?

When I look at Taarabt I see a match winner, a player who no one else can match for ability in this division. We have seen a degree of petulance on the pitch from AT which certain fans have used to demonise the player as some sort of anti christ and I just don't get it.

We had no harder working player in the final third than Taarabt last season, you can see that from the amount of efforts he had on goal which more often than not were real shooting opportunities made by himself and were it not for the woodwork and some wayward shooting he would have easily doubled his goal tally last year. It then frustrates me to hear Taarabt being described as lazy because he isn't tracking back every 5 mins. I'll tell you another thing if he loses possession he does his best to get back, why? Because he constantly wants the ball and going back at the opposition on the attack.

AT is simply not happy to collect his wages each week he loves playing football. Ok he liable to storm off down the tunnel at the end of a game when things don't go his way or when substituted instead hanging around shaking the oppositions hands after defeat, but who cares he is a winner, I wish the rest of the squad wanted to win that much and be a match winner.

Off the pitch I have heard AT is a model professional, he is teetotal and religious and is part of community here in London. You don't hear off AT falling out of night clubs at 3am with a couple of tarts on his arms, beating people up in wine bars or shagging team mates wives. These are the sort of things which give someone an attitude problem IMO yet because he is an emotional player he gets frustrated and constantly wants to do something special he has an attitude???

Flair players more often begin life as individual talents and become team players as their career progresses. More often than not it takes a bit of nurturing from the right manager to make things click. To have so much confidence and ambition at such a young age should not be used as a stick to beat the individual. So we are not his first choice, so what, we are a mid table CCC side who can't even fill our ground, believe me we are not the most attractive proposition to a player like AT. We are reported to be the only club in for but in truth no one knows the full situation and it maybe no one can match our offer or guarantee him first team football like we can.

I just hope if he does sign a certain section of our support get off his back and stop looking for reasons to hate AT and welcome him with open arms like we should because from where I'm sitting he is not the one with the attitude problem.

Well said.
AT is a flair player, but he is a;so young and still learning. Anyone who watched hm last season, can't have failed to notice the improvement under Warnock.

[Scarlet pimple]

The boo'ers were in a very small minority of the crowd, mainly from a few in the upper and lower loft, at which i found myself moaning at them to shut the phark up, and Adel re'acted to them which was a shame.

I moved away from Ellerslie cos of perpetual moaners behind me.

We do seem to have more than a fair share of em.

[PutneyHoop]

Agree in parts with this post, in that he is a fantastic player and his game has really come on under Warnock. however, i do feel he has an attitude as towards the end of last season he twice asked to be substituted once for being booed by fans (wrongly in my mind but as a pro you just have to carry on) and then again the following game for not being allowed to take a penalty, which at a professional level is disgraceful. If Warnock can remove this from his game then in my mind this could potentially be one of the best bits of business this club has done in a very long time.

Mr Monster, I mentioned this in an earlier post. I was down by the dugout for the Watford game about 2 seats along from Warnock. Adel was limping and genrally not having his usual influence on that game. Soon after the penalty he signalled to come off. He then walked to the tunnel and down it and was not seen again until the end of the Newcastle game where he came on with Warnocks arm around him. If he was having a strop why would he miss the last two games of the season - in particular the Showpiece Newcastle match (shop window and all that)? - I do stongly suggest that he was injured and It didn't look like he's been training in that time as he was nearly bursting our of his trousers.

[Vish]

they way AT reacted (asked to be subbed) was ridiculous. hopefully he has grown up

[MYU]

A certain poster on here has spent the past 6 months launching a venomous tirade at Adel Taarabt and his supposed 'attitude problem' and it has got me thinking how do we define an attitude problem?

When I look at Taarabt I see a match winner, a player who no one else can match for ability in this division. We have seen a degree of petulance on the pitch from AT which certain fans have used to demonise the player as some sort of anti christ and I just don't get it.

We had no harder working player in the final third than Taarabt last season, you can see that from the amount of efforts he had on goal which more often than not were real shooting opportunities made by himself and were it not for the woodwork and some wayward shooting he would have easily doubled his goal tally last year. It then frustrates me to hear Taarabt being described as lazy because he isn't tracking back every 5 mins. I'll tell you another thing if he loses possession he does his best to get back, why? Because he constantly wants the ball and going back at the opposition on the attack.

AT is simply not happy to collect his wages each week he loves playing football. Ok he liable to storm off down the tunnel at the end of a game when things don't go his way or when substituted instead hanging around shaking the oppositions hands after defeat, but who cares he is a winner, I wish the rest of the squad wanted to win that much and be a match winner.

Off the pitch I have heard AT is a model professional, he is teetotal and religious and is part of community here in London. You don't hear off AT falling out of night clubs at 3am with a couple of tarts on his arms, beating people up in wine bars or shagging team mates wives. These are the sort of things which give someone an attitude problem IMO yet because he is an emotional player he gets frustrated and constantly wants to do something special he has an attitude???

Flair players more often begin life as individual talents and become team players as their career progresses. More often than not it takes a bit of nurturing from the right manager to make things click. To have so much confidence and ambition at such a young age should not be used as a stick to beat the individual. So we are not his first choice, so what, we are a mid table CCC side who can't even fill our ground, believe me we are not the most attractive proposition to a player like AT. We are reported to be the only club in for but in truth no one knows the full situation and it maybe no one can match our offer or guarantee him first team football like we can.

I just hope if he does sign a certain section of our support get off his back and stop looking for reasons to hate AT and welcome him with open arms like we should because from where I'm sitting he is not the one with the attitude problem.

Really good post W12.

[swanleyhoop]

they way AT reacted (asked to be subbed) was ridiculous. hopefully he has grown up

As has already been pointed out, Taarabt took a very heavy knock very early in that game and had been limping heavily and struggling for well over half an hour.

It seems that some people will only see what they want to see and make it fit an agenda.
Taarabt will not stop being petulant or passionate, same as Cantona never did.
But he will achieve legendary status and be remembered as a footballing genius -- I just hope it's with us.
Oh, and as for the 'myth' about him not passing -- he had improved enormously in looking for the pass; he never passes to someone who we all know will waste it; and the likes of Greaves and Bowles rarely passed the ball either.

But overall players like that assist and score far more than they waste.

[sirpiechucker]

I was shocked by Taarabts attitude issues last season, however, I think that a permanent deal will settle him and he won't constantly be thinking he's better than QPR and expecting a move to a 'bigger' club all the time.

In Warnock we trust!

And for the 2nd time today

:kiss:

[W12_Ranger]

My honest opinion of Adel is that he is a big, sulky baby when things aren't going his way. I feel he believe's that he's better than he is, which can be both a good and a bad trait. He can also be too greedy at times as he'll try one to many tricks, when he should be giving the ball to a player in space, much more early than he'd like. Also, he can be frustrated by a defensive midfielder (as we saw with Savage) who just get's at him and doesn't allow him the room to do his stuff. I also feel that at times, he does have a bad attitude, but he is still very young. My attitude at his age was massively arrogant, and if I had a tallent similar to Adel's, I'd have been far worse, that's for sure.

Those are his bad points. Every player has them. Adel needs to be managed properly, and made to feel loved. Warnock gives him that and seems to have a way of keeping Adel's feet firmly on the ground. Adel also has many plus points. Easilly the most skillful player in the CCC. Possibly the most confident player in the league as far as belief in his own ability goes. The lad is a match winner and has the ability to make even the most average of teams look good, at this level. He can score great goals, both in open play, and from set-pieces. He's still young and sculpting his game, which is also a bonus as he'll only get better. With 7 caps and 3 goals for his national side at this stage of his career to add to his portfolio, he's clearly got a future in this sport.

Lot's of pro's and con's, but I find it hard to believe that this lad is not a top signing. He'll go far as long as he stays level headed and listens to his manager.

Very very positive response on this thread which is fantastic and is nice to see so many fans ready to get behind this player.

Thought I pick one post here from Benny because you balance the argument well and we all know there are few cons to signing Taarabt otherwise he wouldn't be the subject of much debate the way he has been. I think we as fans know that as Conners rightly highlighted have the best man manager in the division, this is why signing Taarabt makes so much sense.


I think in honour of all those negative fans I'm going to get a No. 7 new home shirt and have 'TWO BALL' printed on the back once everything is official

[brightonr]

Very good posts W12, I do like it when you steer clear of the "other subject", it is so much more positive and refreshing to read.

It's also quite evident that almost everyone is in agreement with you on this one and quite rightly so in my opinion.

Potentially, the best signing made by our club since Stan Bowles should it happen, although clearly he has a long way to progress to achieve that level. However, with the right manager which it seems he will have and the fact that he will be "our" player and not someone constantly on the look out for a move away from a team who aren't prepared to give him the opportunity, he will be a much different player this season. I for one cannot wait to see him back, playing the sort of football he is capable of.

And if the price quoted is to be believed, then it's an even better deal than it first appears.