Mittal involvement

[qblockpete]

You'll just paranoid

[MYU]

But Arsenal are still there?

You need to give it a rest mate, that's not HA9.

[skranger]

I find myself agreeing with vblockranger, to a degree Romford Hoop and have to say I have less passion for this season, than previous ones. The thing that indicates things are going on behind the scenes is that back in May, Warnock was telling anyone that would listen how much he was looking forward to bringing in his players and that comically he put down Ishan when asked about the budget, giving all fans the impression rightly or wrongly that money will be spent.

I made the point that I believe we have the right manager because he can get the best of very average players and whilst no-where near the likes of Clough he tends to show the same theory in bringing in players he knows and trusts. take Ambrose for example, now its obvious we were after him, yet Palace win the day by offering him 13k a week and a 3 year contract and we cannot compete with that?

We are 10 days away from the start of the season and whilst we will probably bring 2-3 players, we know now that millions won't be spent. Its a catch 22 situation as we are in the championship, but so many fans from other clubs do not understand our under investment in the club and with a little more thought and marketing this great club could thrive, but most are disillusioned.

The big saving grace is that whilst many other clubs are going to the wall or on the brink of financial ruin, we have rich backers who will prevent that from happening, though it does seem that someones hands are tied as this particular dawn of major shareholders taking over certainly promised more than its delivered, a fact bourne out by the low season ticket holder numbers.

Maybe we should accept for a club our size that being a stable championship side is the very best we can hope for and to a degree we are punching above our weight in this modern age of football

Pete, absolute brilliant post ... Spot on

What is going on ... stable - yes ... setting the world on fire - no

[Ric-Roc]

really, even bolton or wigan if they fell on a tuesday night?
i reckon we would only garuntee a sell out against the big four and maybe one or two others like the ***s and west ham.

I disagree. I estimate we would sell minimum 15,000 ST's in the prem plus your walk up's & away fans that spells sell out imo

[larkspur_hoop]

OMG some people do talk utter rubbish!

[Scarlet pimple]

I disagree. I estimate we would sell minimum 15,000 ST's in the prem plus your walk up's & away fans that spells sell out imo

No walk ups then??????

[Ric-Roc]

I clearly stated walk up's didn't I. So not getting your point.

15,000 ST's in the prem is a certainty in my eyes. Considering we had over 30,000 in Cardiff (15-16,000 glory hunters) the fan base is there they just want to see decent football. The premier league would bring that. We get 18,000 and they class it as a sell out!

[W12_Ranger]

I clearly stated walk up's didn't I. So not getting your point.

15,000 ST's in the prem is a certainty in my eyes. Considering we had over 30,000 in Cardiff (15-16,000 glory hunters) the fan base is there they just want to see decent football. The premier league would bring that. We get 18,000 and they class it as a sell out!

We actually took about 28500 to Cardiff, average crowd that season was 13206 so 15k glory hunters is about right including me because I was at Uni then.

First season in PL would sell out most games but would eventually fall away if we became an established PL team.

[Scarlet pimple]

I clearly stated walk up's didn't I. So not getting your point.

15,000 ST's in the prem is a certainty in my eyes. Considering we had over 30,000 in Cardiff (15-16,000 glory hunters) the fan base is there they just want to see decent football. The premier league would bring that. We get 18,000 and they class it as a sell out!

My point is, if we have 15000 st's where do you fit in the home walk-ups. How many people do you think LR can hold????

[Nodge70]

We actually took about 28500 to Cardiff, average crowd that season was 13206 so 15k glory hunters is about right including me because I was at Uni then.

First season in PL would sell out most games but would eventually fall away if we became an established PL team.

33,500 to Cardiff. Was working at the FL at the time

[Ric-Roc]

My point is, if we have 15000 st's where do you fit in the home walk-ups. How many people do you think LR can hold????

I'm not educated on the rules & laws of ST's do all clubs HAVE to cap ST's at a certain number? My point being if not then we would comfortably sell 15k ST's 2,500 away fans leaves approx 2,500 walk up's on match day. 20,000 that's our official capacity is it not or thereabouts??

Moral of the story-if we get promoted buy a ST so you don't miss out. As W12 Ranger said though after season 1 if we survived I couldn't see the same demand. But if we had the right investment on the playing side you never no.

[RLHoop]

I clearly stated walk up's didn't I. So not getting your point.

15,000 ST's in the prem is a certainty in my eyes. Considering we had over 30,000 in Cardiff (15-16,000 glory hunters) the fan base is there they just want to see decent football. The premier league would bring that. We get 18,000 and they class it as a sell out!

We have 3k in the away end. So 15k would be nearly all available seats.

[Scarlet pimple]

Our capacity is just over 18k.

[Ric-Roc]

In that case then we would be sold out a la Norwich.

[Scarlet pimple]

You can only sell a percentage of your capacity regarding st's, we would not be allowed to sell 15k.