There's a chance someone may lead us to the promised land!

[jams1234]

Come on jams...we want to know what you have to say

Without a doubt you do since it is a whole lot better than some alternatives on here, but I've realised it's just like speaking to a deaf mule in some cases. Sorry.

[Eagle]

Eagle I agree that clyne and Moses are decent players who would both get into every team in championship, however look at the players that are border line England. Walcot gosling Micah richards Roswell are playing week in week out and our better players then clyne and Moses. Don't get me wrong i rate bothof them but clyne has more chance then Moses.if Moses was that quality he would be a reg for wigan. Agree or not?

Obviously not yet! The thing most people forget with Clyne and Moses, is that they are so young! Clyne is playing for the u19's FFS!

The players that are borderline England will soon become proper England, as they replace the old England players. More players will be needed to replace them as "borderline".

They are better players at the moment, but won't be in future. Moses and Clyne could stop developing if they move to the wrong team, but they could easily become the best in the country.

I think you're right; Clyne has more chance than Moses. For the last 2 years, we've been saying that Clyne has the experience of a 30 year old, on a young body. Moses just needs the right environment, and he will rip any team to shreds.

Moses played a part in almost every game since his move to Wigan. Next season, he will probably start most games. I look forward to seeing him progress, because he really could go very, very far.

I respect your opinion though, and it could easily go all #### up for them. But they're good lads, and for their sake, I really hope they do well.

[Scarlet pimple]

If Moses came to you, he'd be your best player by a mile. The same if he came to any team in this division.

Your squad, I am lead to believe, is weaker than it was last season?
How can you expect to finish Mid-table, if you only just did that last season, and your now light of a LOT of goals?

What i dont understand, prehaps you can enlighten me, why was it that moses went to a shoit prem club who are always fighting relegation, when as you say he is a massive talent he didn't go to at least a middle to top half club.

Or did the topish clubs not quite rate him as good as you palarse fans do, lets face it you lot rate your players the best in the world....its a palarse trait is it not.

[bushcelt1]

Now now...no need for that-i'm sure you could always go on to your own clubs sites for better alternatives.....lets be honest you must love it on here hense 359 posts

[Scarlet pimple]

Without a doubt you do since it is a whole lot better than some alternatives on here, but I've realised it's just like speaking to a deaf mule in some cases. Sorry.

Does that mean you wont be on here anymore.

[Eagle]

What i dont understand, prehaps you can enlighten me, why was it that moses went to a shoit prem club who are always fighting relegation, when as you say he is a massive talent he didn't go to at least a middle to top half club.

Or did the topish clubs not quite rate him as good as you palarse fans do, lets face it you lot rate your players the best in the world....its a palarse trait is it not.

*sigh*

He wasn't proven in the Premiership at the time of his sale. £3 million is a lot to spend on a player from a seemingly dying Championship club, fighting for their lives. Wigan aren't a "shoite prem club". They don't always fight relegation, and they've got a decent team at the moment. Rodallega and N'Zogbia are very talented, as is Ben Watson (ANOTHER of ours)

We don't rate our players as the best in the world. However, Moses and Clyne are our two brightest prospects in recent years. They really could go all the way. We've unearthed some serious diamonds there boys, hopefully you'll soon come to see it.

Would you class Birmingham as a middle Premiership club? I'd expect so.
Does their interest in Clyne not tell you how much they rate him? At the moment, the amount they've offered is far less than we would accept, we'd want at least £4m, probably. He could potentially become Englands best defender.

The closest player I can compare Clyne's potential to is Ashley Cole.
The closest player I can compare Moses' potential to, is Walcott but with an end product.

[Eagle]

Does that mean you wont be on here anymore.

You're boring. Some people on your board are able to converse.

You're just a long list of recycled insults, and inaccurate facts.

[Scarlet pimple]

Of course that would include you.

[bushcelt1]

*sigh*

he wasn't proven in the premiership at the time of his sale. £3 million is a lot to spend on a player from a seemingly dying championship club, fighting for their lives. Wigan aren't a "shoite prem club". They don't always fight relegation, and they've got a decent team at the moment. Rodallega and n'zogbia are very talented, as is ben watson (another of ours)

we don't rate our players as the best in the world. However, moses and clyne are our two brightest prospects in recent years. They really could go all the way. We've unearthed some serious diamonds there boys, hopefully you'll soon come to see it.

Would you class birmingham as a middle premiership club? I'd expect so.
Does their interest in clyne not tell you how much they rate him? At the moment, the amount they've offered is far less than we would accept, we'd want at least £4m, probably. He could potentially become englands best defender.

The closest player i can compare clyne's potential to is ashley cole.
The closest player i can compare moses' potential to, is walcott but with an end product.

not saying moses is not a decent player but you are a long way wide of the mark saying he's going to play for england at senior level-too many hopefuls are great at this level but the step up is too much....can see him playing for a team like birmingham but how many of their players play for the national team!!! Its ok bigging one of your own up but don't take the pish

[Scarlet pimple]

And Watson was shoite when he played for us last season.....Fact.

[Scarlet pimple]

You're boring. Some people on your board are able to converse.

You're just a long list of recycled insults, and inaccurate facts.

Why dont you list the inaccurate facts for me, not bothered about the insults you ask for them. sonny.

[Eagle]

Why dont you list the inaccurate facts for me, not bothered about the insults you ask for them. sonny.

"What will you have to say when we do sign him, cos from what i read from ppl who know, its very much on the cards."

"Cos charlton are a bigger club than palarse."

"Celtic looking at speroni, according to yesterdays bbc sport, their going to need special care nursies, suicide stand bye's, support teams at you know where."

Just to remind you - Celtic aren't going to be signing Speroni unless they want to pay a VERY large fee

[Eagle]

And Watson was shoite when he played for us last season.....Fact.

That's because he was playing for you.

It's well documented that the football you played last season was horrible and ineffective. I'd find it hard to image Watson playing well under those conditions.

Watson is a Premier League footballer.... Fact.
Watson is a great player.... Fact.
Watson is a great set piece taker..... Fact.
Watson can pass the ball, unlike most of your team.... Fact.

[Eagle]

not saying moses is not a decent player but you are a long way wide of the mark saying he's going to play for england at senior level-too many hopefuls are great at this level but the step up is too much....can see him playing for a team like birmingham but how many of their players play for the national team!!! Its ok bigging one of your own up but don't take the pish

The last player I saw play at or against Palace who looked anywhere near as good as Moses was Ashley Young.

Warnock himself said that Clyne and Moses will play for England. I'd trust his opinion more than yours, even if he IS a bottler!

I've not seen any better players his age in the entire country. If you can name one, please go ahead.

[Scarlet pimple]

"What will you have to say when we do sign him, cos from what i read from ppl who know, its very much on the cards."

"Cos charlton are a bigger club than palarse."

"Celtic looking at speroni, according to yesterdays bbc sport, their going to need special care nursies, suicide stand bye's, support teams at you know where."

Just to remind you - Celtic aren't going to be signing Speroni unless they want to pay a VERY large fee

1 Charlton in my opiion are bigger than you, plus much much better stadium.

2 bbc football reported Celtic after speroni, fact you can look up the bbc site.

3 there are a very few on here who i trust as being itk, and one of em has give out this info, for which i said it was given out, if that hurts your feelings, well tough.

Nothing false or not fact there, i await your bullshoite reply.