Sutton Utd

[Eagle]

The money we paid you for Warnock helped to keep you going as well.

It did. In fact, Warnock's departure could be seen as a real turning point.

With him in charge, we'd lost, I think it was 4 games on the spin.

Paul Hart then came in, and won his next game against Sheff U.

[Scarlet pimple]

I think it shows a tremendous amount of loyalty. We built him up from a reserve keeper at Dundee to, in Warnock's own opinion, the best keeper in the Championship.

A loyal person would want to reward that. Honestly, you will never meet a nicer bloke than Speroni. He really is worshipped by Palace fans, because he's not only a great 'keeper, but he really does care about the club.

He's never caught doing things he shouldn't, he's just a normal guy, with an exceptional talent. He's not showing a lack of ambition - he's just got his feet on the ground.

I'm sure if Man United wanted to make him their first choice keeper, he'd go. But for a championship / low prem club? No way.

But lets face it, be honest he aint going nowhere with you is he, if he has a family to support then there is something wrong with him, nice guy but the lift dont go all the way to the penthouse.

Even a low prem club would enable him to test himself in the prem and earn a lot more money, short career and all that.

[Scarlet pimple]

It did. In fact, Warnock's departure could be seen as a real turning point.

With him in charge, we'd lost, I think it was 4 games on the spin.

Paul Hart then came in, and won his next game against Sheff U.

True, but as you know we had hart here, he was so bad we would have gone down imo.
Warnock dragged the club out of the mire.

[Eagle]

True, but as you know we had hart here, he was so bad we would have gone down imo.
Warnock dragged the club out of the mire.

I think that both of our clubs just needed a change.

We found that Warnock wasn't cutting the mustard anymore,
We found that Hart was able to do just that.

You found the complete opposite.

[brightonr]

You DO NEED to sell.

You always DID NEED to sell.

The problem is that you DIDN'T SELL.

Hence why you keep going into ADMINISTRATION.

If you had sold players and paid your bills like most other clubs do, then apart from making life easier for your unfortunate creditors who admittedly were somewhat foolish to allow a club like Crystal Palace credit, then you would not have gone into administration, and could have held your heads high, albeit from a lower division which is actually the one you would be most suited to based upon your history and financial status.

Even to this day, you are relying on getting the ground "on the cheap" at the expense of others. How you can have any pride in anything at all relating to your club bemuses me completely.

I am talking about CURRENTLY.

CURRENTLY, we need to sell nobody.

Every few years, a big player comes along. E.g. Moses, or Andy Johnson.

These players - admin permitting - normally sell for a lot of money.

AJ went for £8.5 Million; Moses would have done similar.

These massive saleskeep our club afloat, and always have done.

To suggest that when we are at our most financially stable point in YEARS, we actually need to SELL our 4 best players - who don't want to leave - to survive is ridiculous. Surely you can see that this would make no business sense?

You tried to get our best player "on the cheap" because we were in Administration. We tried to get the best deal for the club with regards to the ground; which we did. It was a great result for the club.

Are you saying that if there was a mansion on your road for £500, you wouldn't buy it, and you'd actually offer closer to its real value?

Of course not.[/QUOTE]

You appear to be digging an even bigger hole for yourself with every subsequent post.

If as you say, your players were worth anything like the amounts you seem to think they were,(God only knows why, considering the levels of success they brought you), then you should have sold them, paid your bills and bought your ground. You would then not have had to pay the rent which eventually led to administration and the threat of extinction. You didn't do that, preferring to think that you could achieve on the field success, bless you.

You could have then been a stable football club, but no, the powers that be chose the risky route which backfired.

Are you seriously suggesting that your new owners have either the financial clout to turn things around, or have learned anything at all from past mistakes? Because if they have learned anything at all, it should be to sell whatever assets you have whilst they still have any value at all as opposed to waiting for them to be worthless again, whilst still not owning the ground, which as we all know leads to one inevitable outcome. Hopefully, next time you get what your disregard for business acumen and a sense of responsibility to others deserve. And when that happens, please don't come here looking for sympathy, once again.

[brightonr]

I think that both of our clubs just needed a change.

We found that Warnock wasn't cutting the mustard anymore,
We found that Hart was able to do just that.

You found the complete opposite.

Only when it came to a direct comparison, we totally dominated you, as all Rangers fans expected.

Considering how much better your players are according to you, it looks as if you were mistaken again.

Paul Hart, George Burley, better managers than Warnock? You are funny. Are you Michael McIntyre by any chance?

[Scarlet pimple]

Remember the fa cup Qtr final against them, loverly jubberly, beat em then as well, and the two league games, in fact its hard to remember losing to em, oh dont forget the 6-0 just cant remember when they were actually better than us.

Apart from the couple of seasons they had in the top league.
To our 18 seasons up there.

[Quaz]

Eagle has won me over

[Quaz]

available in the palace club shop, the burley working suit

[Eagle]

Are you seriously suggesting that your new owners have either the financial clout to turn things around, or have learned anything at all from past mistakes? Because if they have learned anything at all, it should be to sell whatever assets you have whilst they still have any value at all as opposed to waiting for them to be worthless again, whilst still not owning the ground, which as we all know leads to one inevitable outcome. Hopefully, next time you get what your disregard for business acumen and a sense of responsibility to others deserve. And when that happens, please don't come here looking for sympathy, once again.[/B]

We now own the ground, and we are debt-free.

[Scarlet pimple]

You say your new owners are very rich, well theirs rich and theirs rich, Briatorie was very rich, but having a hundred million he was not rich enough and carefull with his money.

Bernie is richer to the tune of about two billion, he is very carefull with his money.

Then there is Mittal he is even richer still, over 20 billion, were waiting to see if he's willing to spend some of it on players.

Having rich owners dont mean they are willing to spend too much of their wealth on your club, its in most cases money into a black hole.

[Eagle]

Only when it came to a direct comparison, we totally dominated you, as all Rangers fans expected.

Considering how much better your players are according to you, it looks as if you were mistaken again.

Paul Hart, George Burley, better managers than Warnock? You are funny. Are you Michael McIntyre by any chance?

George Burley took Ipswich into the Premier League, and then got them into Europe.

Neil Warnock took Sheffield United into the Premier League, and got them relegated.

Last season, you had a run of no wins in 7 games.

[Eagle]

Only when it came to a direct comparison, we totally dominated you, as all Rangers fans expected.

Considering how much better your players are according to you, it looks as if you were mistaken again.

Paul Hart, George Burley, better managers than Warnock? You are funny. Are you Michael McIntyre by any chance?

We have a small, tired squad.

This season our squad will be larger, and not as tired. We shall see who "totally dominated" who at the end of the season.

Our players are much better. It's why we can get results against the big teams in this league, and the smaller Premiership ones.

We drew with Villa 2-2, and it should've been 2-1 but for a little cheating.
We beat Wolves 3-1.
We beat West Brom and Middlesborough. 4 points from both.

You tend to lose against these teams by a significant margin, e.g. 5-0.

It's clear who are the better team. Our squad was mentally f*cked last season, what with administration and no wages being paid. Anyone could see the effect this would have.

I would add - Prior to Administration we were around the top - 6 and in fine form. It was clear who the better side were then, eh?

[Scarlet pimple]

We have a small, tired squad.

This season our squad will be larger, and not as tired. We shall see who "totally dominated" who at the end of the season.

Our players are much better. It's why we can get results against the big teams in this league, and the smaller Premiership ones.

We drew with Villa 2-2, and it should've been 2-1 but for a little cheating.
We beat Wolves 3-1.
We beat West Brom and Middlesborough. 4 points from both.

You tend to lose against these teams by a significant margin, e.g. 5-0.

It's clear who are the better team. Our squad was mentally f*cked last season, what with administration and no wages being paid. Anyone could see the effect this would have.

I would add - Prior to Administration we were around the top - 6 and in fine form. It was clear who the better side were then, eh?

No not a better team, more like a better manager, at the time.
As for beating prem teams, we beat villa away, and mu needed a pen to beat us away, we were the 1st team to take a point off newcastle away, we beat wba at home and drew away.

[brightonr]

We have a small, tired squad.

This season our squad will be larger, and not as tired. We shall see who "totally dominated" who at the end of the season.

Our players are much better. It's why we can get results against the big teams in this league, and the smaller Premiership ones.

We drew with Villa 2-2, and it should've been 2-1 but for a little cheating.
We beat Wolves 3-1.
We beat West Brom and Middlesborough. 4 points from both.

You tend to lose against these teams by a significant margin, e.g. 5-0.

It's clear who are the better team. Our squad was mentally f*cked last season, what with administration and no wages being paid. Anyone could see the effect this would have.

I would add - Prior to Administration we were around the top - 6 and in fine form. It was clear who the better side were then, eh?

I will try to be as polite as is possible under the circumstances.

There is absolutely no way on God's earth that you have better players or a better team. Just look at the squad lists for goodness sake.

We will be way ahead of you again this season, and look forward to you reappearing in May to accept the fact graciously. You may do this in January if you want to get it out of the way early after seeing the inevitable.

In terms of history, we are way ahead of what Palace have ever or ever will achieve. We are a better club in all respects than you and always will be. You keep saying that you have a bright future. Well, get used to the fact that you have not. Not as bright as ours, anyway.

It would usually give me no pleasure at all in seeing other teams suffer financial hardship with the possibility of going under, indeed I had a lot of sympathy for your long suffering fans when the latest situation arose, despite it being totally the fault of the owner. However, after witnessing first hand your staggering arrogance as to how well off you are, immediately after "knocking" people for money that could well have the same effect on them, combined with your astonishing claims that Paddy McCarthy is a good footballer along with all the other rubbish you have come out with, I look forward in anticipation to the next little "blip" in your history which will hopefully be the last.