Originally posted by Jeffro
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how do you honestly think rangers will do next season
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Because we are realists; basing our decision on the current far weaker squad than we had last season.
I'm sick of the moaners on this website we have been sh*t for years and this is the first time I reckon we might actually have a good season so by all means express your opinion but if someone is optomistic dont call them dreamers!
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Originally posted by Jeffro View Post"The negative people"
Because we are realists; basing our decision on the current far weaker squad than we had last season.
I would re phrase your quote something like this
"The dreamer's are losing"
but the manager and the new look board have given me a sniff of something good and allowed me a couple of months of being positive this summer.
and no-ones going to stop me untill the first game of the season, and if it is still like it is now, like you keep on insisting it is going to be, then please make way to let me moan as much as you do. cos i deffo will.
but at this moment in time, i want to believe and im going to believe, for the first time in decades.
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Originally posted by W12Ultra View PostIs that the same as the German's far weaker squad that thumped England because they play as a team and work for each other with a manager who has passion and a desire to win!
I'm sick of the moaners on this website we have been sh*t for years and this is the first time I reckon we might actually have a good season so by all means express your opinion but if someone is optomistic dont call them dreamers!
Quite what Germay and England have to do with QPR and Neil Warnock I really dont know. International football is completely different to league football.
SO losing Taraabt, Routledge, Simpson and Tosic hasnt weakened out squad then???????
If you can honestly sit there and say that then you must have a very warped view of what constitutes a decent football team.
And so it's ok then to call realist's NEGATIVE then, which is what your mate GTP said.
Cant have it both ways...
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Originally posted by G.T.P View Postive been one of the negatives for donkeys years, have had no faith in this lub or team whatsoever. but the manager and the new look board have given me a couple of months of being positive this summer.
and no-ones going to stop me untill the first game of the season, and if it is like it is now like you keep on insisting it is going to be, then please make way to let me moan as much as you do. cos i deffo will.
but at this moment in time, i want to believe for the first time in decades.
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Originally posted by BennyBoyRs View PostDavies has also had to spend a shed load of money to ensure any success. He's a hugely over rated manager. Warnock may have spent 'millions' at Sheff Utd, but no where near as much as Davies would do in 3 years at a club.
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Quite what Germay and England have to do with QPR and Neil Warnock I really dont know. International football is completely different to league football.
SO losing Taraabt, Routledge, Simpson and Tosic hasnt weakened out squad then???????
If you can honestly sit there and say that then you must have a very warped view of what constitutes a decent football team.
And so it's ok then to call realist's NEGATIVE then, which is what your mate GTP said
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Originally posted by Jeffro View PostSo shall we get a manager who has a good record of promoting teams from div 3 and conference??
Davies has as good if not better record from CCC than Warnock.
Davies also got Forest into play off s last season.
Warnock had 7 years and spent millions with Sheffield Utd to get them out the championship.
I'll give you another fact... You have no idea what your'e talking about.
Instead of spouting more of your nonsense why dont you do a little research first and tell us what Warnocks record of buying and selling and Sheffield United was. What did he really spend to get them promoted? Have a look at what Davis spent at Derby. Then tell me who has a better record.
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Originally posted by Mr Lofty View PostDear oh dear. You are just going to embarrase yourself now. Claude Davis at 3 million was widley viewed as Derbys worst signing ever and probably went along way to getting Davis the sack.
Instead of spouting more of your nonsense why dont you do a little research first and tell us what Warnocks record of buying and selling and Sheffield United was. What did he really spend to get them promoted? Have a look at what Davis spent at Derby. Then tell me who has a better record.
Dec 99 - Jun 07
Number of players bought: 87
Money Spent: more than £17m
Michael Brown Man City £400,000 13/01/2000
Laurent D'Jaffo Stockport £100,000 05/02/2000
Andy Woodward Bury £35,000 23/03/2000
Patrick Suffo Nantes £150,000 01/06/2000
Keith Curle Wolves Free 04/07/2000
Georges Santos West Brom Free 04/07/2000
David Kelly Tranmere Free 22/07/2000
Gus Uhlenbeek Fulham Free 03/08/2000
Frank Talia Wolves Free 26/09/2000
Peter Ndlovu Birmingham Free 02/02/2001
Carl Asaba Gillingham £92,500 09/03/2001
Shane Nicholson Stockport Free 06/06/2001
Paul Peschisolido Fulham £150,000 06/07/2001
Grant Smith Livingston Free 10/07/2001
Wilko de Vogt NAC Breda Signed 01/08/2001
Terry Phelan Fulham Free 08/08/2001
Robert Page Watford £350,000 11/09/2001
Jean-Phillipe Javary Raith Free 15/03/2002
Steve Yates Tranmere Free 01/07/2002
Stuart McCall Bradford Free 02/07/2002
Karl Colley Newcastle Signed 05/07/2002
Iffy Onuora Gillingham Free 05/07/2002
Laurens Ten Heuvel Telstar Signed 09/07/2002
Wayne Allison Tranmere Free 31/07/2002
Paddy Kenny Bury Signed 16/10/2002
Steven Kabba C Palace £250,000 15/11/2002
Dean Windass Middlesbro Free 15/01/2003
Richard Edghill Wigan Free 22/01/2003
Marcel Cas Notts Co Free 05/02/2003
Owen Morrison Sheff Wed Free 21/02/2003
Ashley Sestanovich Hampton & R £10,000 05/03/2003
Gary Kelly Northwich Free 26/03/2003
Kristian Rodgers Wrexham Free 19/06/2003
Jack Lester Nottm Forest Free 05/07/2003
Chris Armstrong Oldham £100,000 07/07/2003
Mark Rankine Preston Free 15/07/2003
Andy Parkinson Tranmere Free 16/07/2003
Mike Whitlow Bolton Free 16/07/2003
Chris Morgan Barnsley Free 23/07/2003
Ashley Ward Bradford Free 07/08/2003
Stephen Jagielka Shrewsbury Signed 21/11/2003
Alan Wright Middlesbro Free 12/01/2004
Paul Shaw Gillingham Signed 13/01/2004
Sasa Ilic Barnsley Free 26/02/2004
Andy Gray Bradford Signed 27/02/2004
Simon Francis Bradford £200,000 15/03/2004
Jon Harley Fulham Free 21/06/2004
Barry Hayles Fulham Free 24/06/2004
Andy Liddell Wigan Free 24/06/2004
Leigh Bromby Sheff Wed Free 24/06/2004
Alan Quinn Sheff Wed Free 24/06/2004
Phil Barnes Blackpool Free 25/06/2004
Paul Thirlwell Sunderland Free 27/07/2004
Danny Cadamarteri Leeds £50,000 30/09/2004
Derek Geary Stockport £25,000 22/10/2004
Luke Beckett Stockport £50,000 15/11/2004
Danny Cullip Brighton £250,000 17/12/2004
Tommy Johnson Gillingham Free 09/02/2005
Danny Haystead Scarborough Signed 28/02/2005
Lilian Nalis Leicester Free 17/05/2005
Paul Ifill Millwall £800,000 20/05/2005
Danny Webber Watford £500,000 01/06/2005
Craig Short Blackburn Free 29/06/2005
Gary Mulligan Wolves Free 03/07/2005
Karl Nix Aston Villa Free 05/07/2005
Neil Shipperley C Palace Free 20/07/2005
Keith Gillespie Leicester Free 05/08/2005
David Unsworth Portsmouth Free 22/08/2005
Brian Deane Perth Glory Free 23/12/2005
Garry Flitcroft Blackburn Free 12/01/2006
Ade Akinbiyi Burnley £1,750,000 26/01/2006
Bruce Dyer Stoke Free 26/01/2006
Chris Lucketti Preston £300,000 11/05/2006
David Sommeil Man City Free 24/05/2006
Geoff Horsfield West Brom £1,200,000 24/05/2006
Claude Davis Preston £2,500,000 14/06/2006
Christian Nade Troyes Free 27/06/2006
Mikele Leigertwood C Palace £600,000 04/07/2006
Rob Hulse Leeds £2,200,000 26/07/2006
Li Tie Everton Free 01/08/2006
Ian Bennett Leeds Free 20/08/2006
Colin Kazim-Richards Brighton Signed 31/08/2006
Matthew Kilgallon Leeds £1,750,000 09/01/2007
Jon Stead Sunderland £750,000 11/01/2007
Mamadou Seck Le Havre Free 16/01/2007
Luton Shelton Helsingborgs £1,850,000 25/01/2007
Ahmed Fathi Ismaily £700,000 25/01/2007
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Originally posted by Mr Lofty View PostDear oh dear. You are just going to embarrase yourself now. Claude Davis at 3 million was widley viewed as Derbys worst signing ever and probably went along way to getting Davis the sack.
Instead of spouting more of your nonsense why dont you do a little research first and tell us what Warnocks record of buying and selling and Sheffield United was. What did he really spend to get them promoted? Have a look at what Davis spent at Derby. Then tell me who has a better record.
Joker
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Originally posted by SirLes View PostOK...
Dec 99 - Jun 07
Number of players bought: 87
Money Spent: more than £17m
Michael Brown Man City £400,000 13/01/2000
Laurent D'Jaffo Stockport £100,000 05/02/2000
Andy Woodward Bury £35,000 23/03/2000
Patrick Suffo Nantes £150,000 01/06/2000
Keith Curle Wolves Free 04/07/2000
Georges Santos West Brom Free 04/07/2000
David Kelly Tranmere Free 22/07/2000
Gus Uhlenbeek Fulham Free 03/08/2000
Frank Talia Wolves Free 26/09/2000
Peter Ndlovu Birmingham Free 02/02/2001
Carl Asaba Gillingham £92,500 09/03/2001
Shane Nicholson Stockport Free 06/06/2001
Paul Peschisolido Fulham £150,000 06/07/2001
Grant Smith Livingston Free 10/07/2001
Wilko de Vogt NAC Breda Signed 01/08/2001
Terry Phelan Fulham Free 08/08/2001
Robert Page Watford £350,000 11/09/2001
Jean-Phillipe Javary Raith Free 15/03/2002
Steve Yates Tranmere Free 01/07/2002
Stuart McCall Bradford Free 02/07/2002
Karl Colley Newcastle Signed 05/07/2002
Iffy Onuora Gillingham Free 05/07/2002
Laurens Ten Heuvel Telstar Signed 09/07/2002
Wayne Allison Tranmere Free 31/07/2002
Paddy Kenny Bury Signed 16/10/2002
Steven Kabba C Palace £250,000 15/11/2002
Dean Windass Middlesbro Free 15/01/2003
Richard Edghill Wigan Free 22/01/2003
Marcel Cas Notts Co Free 05/02/2003
Owen Morrison Sheff Wed Free 21/02/2003
Ashley Sestanovich Hampton & R £10,000 05/03/2003
Gary Kelly Northwich Free 26/03/2003
Kristian Rodgers Wrexham Free 19/06/2003
Jack Lester Nottm Forest Free 05/07/2003
Chris Armstrong Oldham £100,000 07/07/2003
Mark Rankine Preston Free 15/07/2003
Andy Parkinson Tranmere Free 16/07/2003
Mike Whitlow Bolton Free 16/07/2003
Chris Morgan Barnsley Free 23/07/2003
Ashley Ward Bradford Free 07/08/2003
Stephen Jagielka Shrewsbury Signed 21/11/2003
Alan Wright Middlesbro Free 12/01/2004
Paul Shaw Gillingham Signed 13/01/2004
Sasa Ilic Barnsley Free 26/02/2004
Andy Gray Bradford Signed 27/02/2004
Simon Francis Bradford £200,000 15/03/2004
Jon Harley Fulham Free 21/06/2004
Barry Hayles Fulham Free 24/06/2004
Andy Liddell Wigan Free 24/06/2004
Leigh Bromby Sheff Wed Free 24/06/2004
Alan Quinn Sheff Wed Free 24/06/2004
Phil Barnes Blackpool Free 25/06/2004
Paul Thirlwell Sunderland Free 27/07/2004
Danny Cadamarteri Leeds £50,000 30/09/2004
Derek Geary Stockport £25,000 22/10/2004
Luke Beckett Stockport £50,000 15/11/2004
Danny Cullip Brighton £250,000 17/12/2004
Tommy Johnson Gillingham Free 09/02/2005
Danny Haystead Scarborough Signed 28/02/2005
Lilian Nalis Leicester Free 17/05/2005
Paul Ifill Millwall £800,000 20/05/2005
Danny Webber Watford £500,000 01/06/2005
Craig Short Blackburn Free 29/06/2005
Gary Mulligan Wolves Free 03/07/2005
Karl Nix Aston Villa Free 05/07/2005
Neil Shipperley C Palace Free 20/07/2005
Keith Gillespie Leicester Free 05/08/2005
David Unsworth Portsmouth Free 22/08/2005
Brian Deane Perth Glory Free 23/12/2005
Garry Flitcroft Blackburn Free 12/01/2006
Ade Akinbiyi Burnley £1,750,000 26/01/2006
Bruce Dyer Stoke Free 26/01/2006
Chris Lucketti Preston £300,000 11/05/2006
David Sommeil Man City Free 24/05/2006
Geoff Horsfield West Brom £1,200,000 24/05/2006
Claude Davis Preston £2,500,000 14/06/2006
Christian Nade Troyes Free 27/06/2006
Mikele Leigertwood C Palace £600,000 04/07/2006
Rob Hulse Leeds £2,200,000 26/07/2006
Li Tie Everton Free 01/08/2006
Ian Bennett Leeds Free 20/08/2006
Colin Kazim-Richards Brighton Signed 31/08/2006
Matthew Kilgallon Leeds £1,750,000 09/01/2007
Jon Stead Sunderland £750,000 11/01/2007
Mamadou Seck Le Havre Free 16/01/2007
Luton Shelton Helsingborgs £1,850,000 25/01/2007
Ahmed Fathi Ismaily £700,000 25/01/2007
Lofty , give up fella.
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