For the optimist cyber warriors...

[twranger]

Of course NW should be trusted!
He's a pro football manager and a good one in this league!
Just a hunch, but probably knows more than any QPR fan, who think they know more about football management than NW!

[twranger]

FFS,its only july,i mean june,and there is always the loan market in september and the january window when it opens and the loan window when that closes,so no hurry at all to sign good players,the crap ones (mackie,derry,clarke,hill,hulse)will do us fine ofr the moment.

How on earth can you label those players as crap before they've even kicked a ball for QPR - players can change with a new team, new manager and new environment. We just dont know how these so-called "crap players" will perform at QPR. Could be good could be bad - just wait and see before coming up with sweeping statements........you might be right, you might be wrong.

[vblockranger]

How on earth can you label those players as crap before they've even kicked a ball for QPR - players can change with a new team, new manager and new environment. We just dont know how these so-called "crap players" will perform at QPR. Could be good could be bad - just wait and see before coming up with sweeping statements........you might be right, you might be wrong.

so in other words you dont have a ****ing clue and have no opinion on the matter either way?

Moderating note: careful not to insult other posters please.

[twranger]

so in other words you dont have a ****ing clue and have no opinion on the matter either way?

You're right, I don't have a" ****ing" clue. No one does. Fact is no one has a crystal ball and no one can say with any certainty how these players will perform - hence the "could be right could be wrong" comment.

[Rebel R's]

well i do have a ****ing clue,and Leon Clarke and Shaun Derry are crap players,dont need to "wait and see".

[Jeffro]

Derry and Clarke are pound shop signings, if CLint Hill follows them I can see unrest with a large section of fans like myself.

[Rebel R's]

Derry and Clarke are pound shop signings, if CLint Hill follows them I can see unrest with a large section of fans like myself.

he will

[Jeffro]

So we are promised an exciting summer, time and time again in Messiahs interviews.

The board come out and smile in interviews when a "Big" budget question is posed to them, incinuating that we will spend money. Everyone rushes out to buy a season ticket (not me), then as they hit 6.5k sales, they then wait to announce Derry and an imminent Hill... poor really aint it?

[vblockranger]

hate the feeling im being scammed and taken the **** out of hence the first time in years myself and my family have not renewed. Not the only family i know of who is feeling disheartened either...
time for amit and that lot to put the **** up or shut the **** up..
Still time...we have an intresting month ahead of us :-)

[Rebel R's]

Spin City

[Jeffro]

hate the feeling im being scammed and taken the **** out of hence the first time in years myself and my family have not renewed. Not the only family i know of who is feeling disheartened either...
time for amit and that lot to put the **** up or shut the **** up..
Still time...we have an intresting month ahead of us :-)

Well when July Hits and the friendlies start and we line up with the same old tripe, it will show just how we have regressed.

On that note how the hell did Norwich get friendlies against Everton and Newcastle and we end up with crap like scarborough and Serie C teams??

Maybe its a Paladini scouting trip, why else would we go to Italy, now Flavio has no influence??

[vblockranger]

Well when July Hits and the friendlies start and we line up with the same old tripe, it will show just how we have regressed.

On that note how the hell did Norwich get friendlies against Everton and Newcastle and we end up with crap like scarborough and Serie C teams??

Maybe its a Paladini scouting trip, why else would we go to Italy, now Flavio has no influence??

agree Jeffro sounds a bit suspect to me..
Both the Italians are keeping a low profile but obviously still have their chubby fingers in the pie

[80sCasual]

well i do have a ****ing clue,and Leon Clarke and Shaun Derry are crap players,dont need to "wait and see".

You may, you may not have a clue, but some managers have worked wonders with mediocre players and Neil does seem the guy to get the best from people, plus no one else but Neil knows what his plans & formations etc are going to be apart from him, so in a way twranger is right in saying 'just wait and see' as you can't really do much else at the moment can you.

[FurtiveFox]

You may, you may not have a clue, but some managers have worked wonders with mediocre players and Neil does seem the guy to get the best from people, plus no one else but Neil knows what his plans & formations etc are going to be apart from him, so in a way twranger is right in saying 'just wait and see' as you can't really do much else at the moment can you.

Common sense at last.

What a lot of moaning about players we have not seen in hooped shirts yet with weeks for NW to make further signings. As I have said many times we need a new team and there will be some bargain basement signings.

Once the World Cup is over is when most of the serious business will be done. In the meantime take a valium, chill out and enjoy the sunshine.

[Jeffro]

You may, you may not have a clue, but some managers have worked wonders with mediocre players and Neil does seem the guy to get the best from people, plus no one else but Neil knows what his plans & formations etc are going to be apart from him, so in a way twranger is right in saying 'just wait and see' as you can't really do much else at the moment can you.

I cant do much else, you are right 80's.
But what I can do is comment on what we have been told, what the board have incinuated and what we are being served up.

No one will convince me that Shawn Derry is a good signing. Mahon is a better player as is Rowlands.
If Clint Hill signs we have hit rock bottom in signings.