Will the club ever get back the spirit under Holloway we had?

[Jeffro]

Would anyone here take basic security and having a team to support, one that spends and hands out contracts within it's means, to get back to the atmosphere and togetherness we had in the Holloway era.
Or
do you like and prefer the optimism and belief that one day our billionaaire owners will spend and compete us with the big boys in monetary terms.

Basically I'd rather have no financial clout and rich owners to hav a burnley type well run set up?

You?

[bushcelt1]

Ask me in may 2011

[stainrodisalegend]

poison or drowning? none of the options are great...

[rtone]

at least i felt part of my club then

[qprted]

well

holloway was one in a million,we wont ever see his like again,although he didnt have venables genius............WHAT A CHARACTOR................

[BennyBoyRs]

We won't get any of that back...ever. Nothing at all to do with the money, nor the team. It's because our fanbase is so far divided and full of bitterness and hatred that it'll continue to suck the spirit from the team.

Every player mistake is groaned at. Any player who's face doesn't fit will be booed. Players like Ramage and Cerny will never be fully accepted by some as they either started badly when played out of position, or they took a former fans favourite 'flappers' place between the sticks. We've got a lot of fans who vent their anger towards eachother ant the team, so unless that changes (and it won't), we'll never get that feeling of togetherness back.

I'm starting to believe it when other teams call us a 'joke club' as that's what our fans have made us.

Sad times.

[QPR1234]

We won't get any of that back...ever. Nothing at all to do with the money, nor the team. It's because our fanbase is so far divided and full of bitterness and hatred that it'll continue to suck the spirit from the team.

Every player mistake is groaned at. Any player who's face doesn't fit will be booed. Players like Ramage and Cerny will never be fully accepted by some as they either started badly when played out of position, or they took a former fans favourite 'flappers' place between the sticks. We've got a lot of fans who vent their anger toesrds eachoyher ant the team, so unless that changes (and it won't), we'll never get that feeling of togetherness back.

I'm starting to believe it when other teams call us a 'joke club' as that's what our fans have made us.

Sad times.

i wouldnt lay the blame solely on the fans.. the money / new era also has something to do with that divide you talk of.

[Jeffro]

We won't get any of that back...ever. Nothing at all to do with the money, nor the team. It's because our fanbase is so far divided and full of bitterness and hatred that it'll continue to suck the spirit from the team.

Every player mistake is groaned at. Any player who's face doesn't fit will be booed. Players like Ramage and Cerny will never be fully accepted by some as they either started badly when played out of position, or they took a former fans favourite 'flappers' place between the sticks. We've got a lot of fans who vent their anger toesrds eachoyher ant the team, so unless that changes (and it won't), we'll never get that feeling of togetherness back.

I'm starting to believe it when other teams call us a 'joke club' as that's what our fans have made us.

Sad times.

I think there is an element of truth in what you say mate, though the club do themselves no favours as the seem to have NOT learnt from past mistakes especially regarding Transfers.

Season tickets I think we all agree are over priced also.

The fans have there share of the blame though all the 4 year 15k a week contracts which we as fans have NO input to, have to suffer the consequences because of these.

[Shania]

BennyboyRs is spot on!!

[paulmason]

The day the seating was changed to gold, silver and bronze changed the dynamics of W12 for a generation and will not come back. I have a feeling that NW will come close, but Oldham at home will not be seen again IMO, because people are scattered everywhere.