Putting things into perspective

[sirpiechucker]

I keep reading that the likes of Hill, Stead, Harte etc aren't good enough but would you say any of the following are good enough?

Keith Southern
Alex Baptiste
Stephen Crainey
David Vaughan
Ian Evatt
Brett Ormerod
Gary Taylor-Fletcher
Jason Euell
Neal Eardley
Ben Burgess

They each played more than 20 league games for Blackpool this season and have achieved a top 6 finish this season.

To win promotion or even just to finish in the top 6 is more about playing as a team then having a group of great individuals. As someone else rightly pointed out who in the top 6 had a 20+ goal scorer this season? (Whittingham is a midfielder and scored 7 penalities).

We will be linked and we will sign players who may not set the world alight but as the players above show we don't need superstars to finish in the top 6. Leicester scored just 3 goals more than us but finished 19 points ahead of us and none of there players scored more than Simpson. We need a good defence and an attack which scores the odd goals. We don't need to put the club in financial danger by spending thousands of pounds on weekly salaries and millions on transfer fees - we need players who know the league, can do a job and work with Warnock. The likes of Hill, Stead and Harte are no worse (if not better) than Burgess, Vaughan and Crainey.

Stead scored 8 goals this season at a goal every 230 minutes, which is 13 minutes quicker than Simpson scored at and 87 minutes quicker than Ben Burgess scored at. He'll do us a job but hey maybe I should have expected us to sign David Villa.

[rangersroar]

On the other hand, I'd rather be like Newcastle than Blackpool............Win the league with ease, rather than sneak into the play-offs on the last day of the season.

[twranger]

A great post and SO true!

[Dando]

i think people are just getting tired of seeing us sign freebies, and unknown players, and are looking for some proven quality players. I think some of the names mentioned are decent, and im not expecting too much - but i suppose with high ticket prices and season after season of dissapointment, people are losing a bit of patience and are wanting one or 2 bigger names to look forward to - players who have already set this divison alight.

[Dando]

but good post, i agree! We just need a good mix of players - who play well together - and i dont trust anyone more than warnock with that

[Quaz]

On the other hand, I'd rather be like Newcastle than Blackpool............Win the league with ease, rather than sneak into the play-offs on the last day of the season.

so you want to spend your time on the terraces with bit fat sweaty northeners with no shirts on...crack on mate

[Jeffro]

I keep reading that the likes of Hill, Stead, Harte etc aren't good enough but would you say any of the following are good enough?

Keith Southern
Alex Baptiste
Stephen Crainey
David Vaughan
Ian Evatt
Brett Ormerod
Gary Taylor-Fletcher
Jason Euell
Neal Eardley
Ben Burgess

They each played more than 20 league games for Blackpool this season and have achieved a top 6 finish this season.

To win promotion or even just to finish in the top 6 is more about playing as a team then having a group of great individuals. As someone else rightly pointed out who in the top 6 had a 20+ goal scorer this season? (Whittingham is a midfielder and scored 7 penalities).

We will be linked and we will sign players who may not set the world alight but as the players above show we don't need superstars to finish in the top 6. Leicester scored just 3 goals more than us but finished 19 points ahead of us and none of there players scored more than Simpson. We need a good defence and an attack which scores the odd goals. We don't need to put the club in financial danger by spending thousands of pounds on weekly salaries and millions on transfer fees - we need players who know the league, can do a job and work with Warnock. The likes of Hill, Stead and Harte are no worse (if not better) than Burgess, Vaughan and Crainey.

Stead scored 8 goals this season at a goal every 230 minutes, which is 13 minutes quicker than Simpson scored at and 87 minutes quicker than Ben Burgess scored at. He'll do us a job but hey maybe I should have expected us to sign David Villa.

We then have to spend millions and millions if we do get promoted on a whole new side, as the likes of Brett Omereod certainly will have no impact at all in the premier league.

If we were to sign the Jason Koumas' of the world at least they have the quality to step up to the plate, as does the likes of Taraabt and Buszacky.

Why sign freebies and CCC players who simply wont survive in the quality of the premiership??

[W12_Ranger]

We finished about 5 wins of the Play Offs in a 46 game season, I honestly doubt there was a single team outside the Play Offs who dominated more matches in terms of possession and shots on goal than us. I'd probably look at Harfords tenure of our astonishing 5 managers this season which put us in the relegation zone. It is not that we are really a team of underachievers more that the standard of the CCC is not really that great and with some consistency the Play Offs should be easily achievable. The truth is we'd probably have made the Play Offs under Sousa this season, shame a few can't admit it.

When we are talking about expenditure and spending big in particular on strikers then with actually talking about Top 2.

[rangersroar]

We then have to spend millions and millions if we do get promoted on a whole new side, as the likes of Brett Omereod certainly will have no impact at all in the premier league.

If we were to sign the Jason Koumas' of the world at least they have the quality to step up to the plate, as does the likes of Taraabt and Buszacky.

Why sign freebies and CCC players who simply wont survive in the quality of the premiership??

[Shania]

I keep reading that the likes of Hill, Stead, Harte etc aren't good enough but would you say any of the following are good enough?

Keith Southern
Alex Baptiste
Stephen Crainey
David Vaughan
Ian Evatt
Brett Ormerod
Gary Taylor-Fletcher
Jason Euell
Neal Eardley
Ben Burgess

They each played more than 20 league games for Blackpool this season and have achieved a top 6 finish this season.

To win promotion or even just to finish in the top 6 is more about playing as a team then having a group of great individuals. As someone else rightly pointed out who in the top 6 had a 20+ goal scorer this season? (Whittingham is a midfielder and scored 7 penalities).

We will be linked and we will sign players who may not set the world alight but as the players above show we don't need superstars to finish in the top 6. Leicester scored just 3 goals more than us but finished 19 points ahead of us and none of there players scored more than Simpson. We need a good defence and an attack which scores the odd goals. We don't need to put the club in financial danger by spending thousands of pounds on weekly salaries and millions on transfer fees - we need players who know the league, can do a job and work with Warnock. The likes of Hill, Stead and Harte are no worse (if not better) than Burgess, Vaughan and Crainey.

Stead scored 8 goals this season at a goal every 230 minutes, which is 13 minutes quicker than Simpson scored at and 87 minutes quicker than Ben Burgess scored at. He'll do us a job but hey maybe I should have expected us to sign David Villa.

Why bother to talk sense to ....... those who doesnt want to listen??

[Shania]

Because that would be a financial gamble.

Money will be spent when we get to the prem or Warnock sees in what departments we do lack the final quality to get there.

[rangersroar]

Because that would be a financial gamble.

Money will be spent when we get to the prem or Warnock sees in what departments we do lack the final quality to get there.

Better to gamble on the favourite in a race than the outsider.
If you don't take a chance in life you will never achieve anything.

[bpr11]

As i said on another post:

I would like us to buy players who fit into our managers desired system, and I believe NW will have one for next season, so in turn if that player is good for the system.... whatever they have done at other clubs is irrelevant and they will get my full support!

Never been a fan of Hulse, I personally think he is a donkey but if NW sees him fitting the system then he is good enough for QPR.

Blooming interweb managers do my nut in.... he isnt good enough, he is average.... lets just trust the REAL manager judgment and stop the whining like kids...

Thats my whine over.....

[stainrodisalegend]

agree with a fair amount of that - stabiliy, teamwork and a good manager are more important than star names. however, our squad is already several deep in most positions with very average players. if we bring in a load more average players - albeit with better attitudes - we are going to fall short again. No problem with freebies and unknowns but much will depend on whether the club does spend a bit of money on that bit of real quality, particularly up front where - as has been well argued elsewhere - we are by some distance the weakest team in the league.

[stanistheman]

A good post and in many ways, makes a lot of sense.

However, I do not really want QPR to sneak into the play-offs, partly because it is a lottery once there and also because it often means sneaking in at the death like Blackpool or Hull did a few seasons ago.

I agree a team ethic is more important than individuals, but considering how much QPR charge fans to watch raises expectations that good signings will be made, not just freebies and cheap signings.

If QPR want 18,000 fans each week, they should lower the prices like they did for the Leicester game which attracted more than 17,000.

This may be nitpicking, but as for no top striker in the top 6 sides, Fryatt scored freely and more than Simpson before missing the last 4 months or so through injury. And what about Chopra? Also, how many goals has Carroll scored for Newcastle? Earnshaw would have scored more had it not been for the rotation policy at Forest and no doubt Blackstock would have too.

I don't mind if QPR sign Hill, Stead, Harte, Montgomery etc, but would like them to sign the likes of Taarabt, Hooper, Speroni and perhaps one or two more, including Tosic, Volz or two other good recognised full backs