Season Ticket Prices To Be Announced Within Next 10 days

[wicksta]

Its pointless getting a season ticket, because if you miss two games over the season due to illness, work or cant be bothered, you might as well pay as you go and add to that the special offers the club seem to throw in all the time, you are a mug to get one.

I've missed quite a few games this season due to having a new baby and work but I still wouldn't have gone back in time and not bought this season's ticket. I like my seat and the people who sit nearby (even W12_Ranger and superhoop67 ) . Hopefully next season I won't miss as many (or any) though. I don't mind the offers that are given to non ST holders, better that than an empty ground.

[Nodge70]

i agree a good signing would help, but people can only pay what they can afford. £600 is too much for a Championship side who is still fighting relegation and keeping this price will hardly improve attendances next year. They need to be reduced, even if its just by a little IMO

Agree it's too much - but playing, staffing, maintenance, safety and retail budgets and resource levels have been set around these figures. Unless Ishan and Amit rip all these up and start completely afresh or a massive cash injection on top of what has already, allegedly, been promised to NW is a massive undertaking.

Honestly think that existing ST holders will be considered but new ST holders will pay what the current prices are. Think it's sensible budgetary planning. Not that I approve, but there isn't a money tree outside LR at the moment!

[qpr_matt]

I think season tickets should be on a par/cheaper than Fulham. They have announced there 2010/2011 prices (http://www.fulhamfc.com/Tickets/Seas...ets201011.aspx) and they start at £285 for an adult.

Also think that ST holders should get home cup games for free.

So they get a higher class of football and world class players, and we should be on par with them? We should be lower.

Obviously I know we have outgoings, but we have sponsers and match day takings.

Anything more than £450 I do not feel can be justyfied, at all.

[paulmason]

Agree it's too much - but playing, staffing, maintenance, safety and retail budgets and resource levels have been set around these figures. Unless Ishan and Amit rip all these up and start completely afresh or a massive cash injection on top of what has already, allegedly, been promised to NW is a massive undertaking.

Honestly think that existing ST holders will be considered but new ST holders will pay what the current prices are. Think it's sensible budgetary planning. Not that I approve, but there isn't a money tree outside LR at the moment!

The fans backed the club by paying higher prices and got sod all in return and because of this, they will not be mugged again. The new people need to address this, otherwise W12 we continue to be half empty.

The club screwed up the god will, not the fans!

[Nodge70]

The fans backed the club by paying higher prices and got sod all in return and because of this, they will not be mugged again. The new people need to address this, otherwise W12 we continue to be half empty.

The club screwed up the god will, not the fans!

Absolutely agree with you Paul - not saying that anyone is wrong, I just can't see the financial logic for the club to decrease ST prices unless there is a massive overhaul in the entire business plan and a massive cash injection. I don't think a reduction in ST prices will encourage the mass of new ST holders that would make such a reduction financially worthwhile to the club.

W12 has performed well. Been full for most games. C-Club is the embarrassment.

[paulmason]

Nodge, when i refer to W12, I mean loftus road, not the posh seats and I have a feeling that the business model will change, as an empty seat is not contributing to the bills.

[Dando]

I understand there are costs, but at the end of the day, if prices remain that high, people wont go, simple as that

[Nodge70]

I understand there are costs, but at the end of the day, if prices remain that high, people wont go, simple as that

But but but but but......

Devils Advocate here....

We've seen a minor (and I mean really minor) differential to our average attendance this season. With a HUGE number of home games being played on weekday evenings (traditionally 15-20% down on Saturday equivalents) even more so with the postponements in Dec and Jan.

So, even allowing for the higher prices and appalling scheduling, the genuine bad blood with Briatore and the managerial merry go round farce, our average attendance has more or less maintained the status quo.

Now - if you were a sane marketeer and commercial analyst, why would you strip out say 20% of your core revenue when you have a new management team with the promise of significant investment in the playing side generating similarly significant good will, when you have absolutely no guarantee that that revenue would return? Would be a massive gamble with millions at stake..

God - I sound like conners.........someone save me!

[WE ARE QPR!]

£380 top price in SAR and on a reducing scale for other parts of the ground. 15,000 guaranteed would be worth 15-20 points due to the atmosphere which has been sadly lacking since Ollie left! Surely the take up in new ST would cover the reduction in price?

[Dando]

i think attendances would go up a little bit on last year, even if tickets were the same price - due to having warnock and no Briatore. However, this is too expensive and there will be even more pressure on the team to do well, and a worse atmosphere if we go through a bad patch. Thats my opinion anyway. Ive never seen so many empty seats around me, even with Warnock in charge

[brightonr]

I recently gave some thought to this issue and came up with an idea.

I have tried to take into account the needs of the club, as well as those of the fans, whether they are season ticket holders or attend matches on a less frequent basis. I apologise for the length of the post, but felt it important to explain the reasoning behind each part.

As far as the fans are concerned, the majority feel that what they have received in return for the prices they have to pay, has been somewhat short of their expectations at this stage. Season ticket holders are clearly upset, not only because of the cost of their ticket, but the fact that it does not represent a significant saving over the prices paid by those who visit occasionally. This point is further aggravated, when they see certain promotions being made by the club, who in fairness are only making attempts to attract new support, which further impacts on the perceived value of their ticket. Many, quite clearly fail to take into account the other benefits though, such as having a guaranteed seat for every game, usually surrounded by familiar faces.

One argument that I often hear about the pricing strategy, is that if the club were to significantly reduce the prices, then the attendances would increase to a level that would more than pay for it, particularly when taking into account the additional revenue from food, drink, programmes and the like. I do not happen to share that view with any confidence and as far as I am aware, such things have been tried before at other clubs, with results confirming my own opinion.

From the club’s perspective, I feel that they are in a difficult position for two reasons.
Obviously, the combined wealth of our owners leads to some taking the view that as they have so much money, they should be spending it on the club. Not a point I can agree with in any way at all. Regardless of anyone’s financial status, they cannot be expected to subsidise everything all of the time. I personally view the fact that we have wealthy owners, as a comfort regarding the future stability of our club and have no wish to see them spending disproportionately in an attempt to simply buy success. There would not be much of a feeling of achievement, if that was how it were to be attained.

In addition, in order to balance the books, it is only fair that the fans play their part and contribute both in terms of increased attendances along with paying a fair price based upon what they get in return.

My suggestion therefore, is that for next season, season ticket prices should remain at the level they are currently set at, but with certain conditions and incentives involved based upon both the club and the fans delivering what can reasonably be expected of them.

I would suggest that in terms of the fans commitment, provided that the average home supporters’ attendance level is at least 14,000 over the course of the season, then either a 10% refund or discount off the following season’s ticket is made available. In doing this, if those fans who think that lowering prices will automatically lead to higher attendances are proven to be correct, then they will get their way, having earned their reward without the club having to take on all of the risk. If this were not to be the case, then they cannot claim that the club did not at least consider and provide the opportunity for it to happen.

Furthermore, on the assumption that we should have a sufficiently good squad and management team in place to achieve at least a top 6 spot by the end of the season, then if the club failed to deliver that level of success a further 10% refund/discount should be applied.

These conditions would lead to a range of possibilities, as detailed below.

Fans deliver, Club do not : The result would be that although another disappointing season has passed without any real achievement, at least the fans will have profited from a 20% discount off of the price of their tickets, a very significant reduction in cost and they would hardly be in a position to claim that they are being charged over the odds to watch their team. A £500 season ticket will actually have only cost £400.

Club deliver, Fans do not : Whilst this would result in no cost saving at all to the fans, at least the team will have achieved a level of success that warrants the perceived high prices. The cost will still be £500, but the team would have been a successful one and the only reason for no cost saving is that the fans did not support the team sufficiently along the way. In this way, the club do not have to unfairly accept a loss of revenue for keeping to their part of the bargain.

Both Club and Fans deliver : This would see the fans receiving a significant cost saving in return for their support, having had the pleasure of seeing the team do well. The same ticket would have cost them £450, which could not be considered unfair for watching a successful team.

Neither the Club or fans deliver : Another unsuccessful season maybe, however the fans will still have paid 10% less, which considering the lack of commitment on their behalf, would seem totally fair to me.

In putting together a package in this way, it would also be further strengthening the relationship between the fans and the club, creating a type of “Togetherness”, where all concerned are pulling together to do their bit, which I am sure both sides would dearly like to see. Any accusations that the club do not take into account the finances of the fans would be completely quashed.

Another implication would be that, on the assumption that the second example above does not occur, the season ticket holders will have benefited from a reasonable cost saving over the prices paid by those that attend less frequently, thereby removing yet another bone of contention for those that show their support for the club by paying in advance for their seat. There would also be no need to increase the prices to those who attend sporadically, which is important when considering that you want to attract a new generation of supporters to the club in addition to the existing fanbase.

No doubt many will disagree with this and I fully expect to come in for some stick from certain people, but it seemed reasonable to me.

[terry ball]

a slight increase if money will be invested in the squad and plenty of promotions to encourage new fans

[Rich]

I think the right thing to do would be to introduce a price structure maybe around 10% less than now but hold the date until after the main summer transfers are complete.

The fans have put their hands in their pockets for too long now based on false promises, wrong managers and silly loans. I believe we have turned the corner but this kind of move would really get the fans on their side and ST sales will increase drastically!

[maccatwo]

I think they should prices top £450 , £400, £390 for all early birds with season tickets holders renewing should get extra 20% for there loyalty. On nobby say season tickets shold based on loyalty points and those who travel the whole cournty should get more off they should be stright no. There those who love to be going all over the country but can't offered it. So you want them priced out to on home games.

[stan_bowles]

they defiantely need to be lowered. When i tell people that im paying nearly £600 - their face says it all. I wouldnt complain so much if we genuinely had a chance of walking the league, but we wont

My mate only pays £650 to watch Premier football at Chelsea.

We are way to expensive for our league.