Transfers in v out over last 2 years or so.

[QPR1976]

My response to Pete's thread last night (which morphed into a squabble) ended up 3 pages in & thus, probably never see the light of day.
So, in the interests of a healthy debate.....I'll repost -

How much have we taken & spent in last 2 years (or during FB's reign, so slightly longer)

My figures are VERY approximate. I'm not ITK, just from what I recall or read in Official History books (Gordon Macey). And in no particular order.....

Transfers OUT -
Blackstock 1.5m assuming all extra payments are achieved/made.
Camp 200k
Delaney 600k
Routledge 2m assuming they get promoted - They Will !
Barker 100k
Walton 500k
Perrett 1m
Stirling 500k
Did we get anything from Pompey for Keeper O'Brien ?
(Probably still o/s if we did)
Anyway, we're looking at around £6.5M

I'm not including any income from the current loans of Helguson, Hall, Agyemang or Pellicori (!?!) - But hopefully all or most will bring in extra revenue come the seasons end.

Transfers IN -
Too many inbounds (47+) many were loans and I can't be @rsed to go through them all individually now, suffice to say, Pete you issued a list only a week or so ago, from FL sources which, if I recall correctly, amounted to around £7m spent in the same period. Again, approximate, from memory.
I also recall some dispute about a couple of players (Faurlin & Connolly)but let's no go there again. I think some of your numbers were a little low against my recollections at the time of the transfers, so lets add £1.5m if only to consider Agents fees.
Total spend - around £8.5M

Which leaves us with around £2M deficit over 2.5 years. Probably not that bad, although Wages & Loans will have added considerably to our debt in that time.

So Pete, Is that what you wanted to see ?
Agreed ? Or am I wide of the mark ?

[cross it Dave]

76, thanks for that. Like you, I am not an ITK'er, and can only have a guesstimate of the actual sums involved based on what we've read.

It seems very apparent that for a club with our high aspirations, only spending "approximately" £2 million net on transfers ain't going set the world on fire.

The club needs a policy of only buying players other clubs don't want to sell, And you don't have to be a Einstein to work out that will cost a lot more than £2 million pounds.

Quality not quantity from now on is our way forward

[vblockranger]

My response to Pete's thread last night (which morphed into a squabble) ended up 3 pages in & thus, probably never see the light of day.
So, in the interests of a healthy debate.....I'll repost -

How much have we taken & spent in last 2 years (or during FB's reign, so slightly longer)

My figures are VERY approximate. I'm not ITK, just from what I recall or read in Official History books (Gordon Macey). And in no particular order.....

Transfers OUT -
Blackstock 1.5m assuming all extra payments are achieved/made.
Camp 200k
Delaney 600k
Routledge 2m assuming they get promoted - They Will !
Barker 100k
Walton 500k
Perrett 1m
Stirling 500k
Did we get anything from Pompey for Keeper O'Brien ?
(Probably still o/s if we did)
Anyway, we're looking at around £6.5M

I'm not including any income from the current loans of Helguson, Hall, Agyemang or Pellicori (!?!) - But hopefully all or most will bring in extra revenue come the seasons end.

Transfers IN -
Too many inbounds (47+) many were loans and I can't be @rsed to go through them all individually now, suffice to say, Pete you issued a list only a week or so ago, from FL sources which, if I recall correctly, amounted to around £7m spent in the same period. Again, approximate, from memory.
I also recall some dispute about a couple of players (Faurlin & Connolly)but let's no go there again. I think some of your numbers were a little low against my recollections at the time of the transfers, so lets add £1.5m if only to consider Agents fees.
Total spend - around £8.5M

Which leaves us with around £2M deficit over 2.5 years. Probably not that bad, although Wages & Loans will have added considerably to our debt in that time.

So Pete, Is that what you wanted to see ?
Agreed ? Or am I wide of the mark ?

wages for the 47+ players must add up to quite a bit i should imagine even if we only paid a percentage of wages for the loan players..

[QPR1976]

Thanks Dave, I like you too !?!
Seriously, I agree. Quality most definitely over quantity from now on.

So come on Pete, you asked the question, and I've answered (or tried to) - twice !

I'm interested in your response & thoughts and intrigued as to your reason for asking.....

[stanistheman]

Wahtever it actually is, if those figures are close, then it is clear that QPR have not really spent anywhere near enough to justify the money bags QPR comments.

And I agree, quality over quantity every time.

Perhaps the next batch of signings can include the likes of Ambrose, Speroni, Clyne, Hooper, St Ledger etc. Oh and if possible, make Simpson a permanent deal too.

[qblockpete]

Cheers for that

Just shows we haven;t been able to spend much in the transfer market, hopefully thats all about to change. Think your sums are fair reflection.

We've had too many loans, because money wasn't released and the high number of loans are obviously because we dealt with 1 month, 3 month or 6 month loans. No good at all.

Good to see, thats about to change.

qpr1976, does show when other fans supporters tell us were the richest club, just how little was spent

Agent fees on loans are very small. The new report from the football league will confirm this. Agent fees raise significantly on buys and NOT loans

[QPR1976]

Spending about to change ? fingers crossed, but probably not until the Summer.
Maybe on more loans with a promise to buy later, but surely we'll have to send home first. We can't select all the ones we got now.

The misconception about being big spending / rich club was never more obvious than 2 Summers ago when we spent the grand total of £250k on Gorkks.
With FB not willing to spend his own and his Sponsor deals not reaping big dividends outside the promised land, I think it was Mittal money that was mainly spent on new players and once they saw the circus that FB was creating, they became wary of further financial support until they had a stronger say / interest. I think it's called throwing good money after bad.
As you say, hopefully about to change, but as mentioned above, we need quality over quantity now.

Do you think any of Ambrose, Speroni, Clyne or Danns will arrive before the Summer ? Or at all ? And what about the Hooper rumour ? Any reason for optimism ?

[qblockpete]

Money will be spent, at this time best to follow the Warnock line

and say nothing

[QPR1976]

Ok, mums the word !