An Insight into Ainsworth's 8 months

[Abseits]

This report is a bit grim but possibly not really surprising...

https://www.londonworld.com/sport/football/qpr/hands-tied-coach-explains-qpr-fail-5046212

[Dono77]

Whilst I agree that we had some complete ar5eholes in the dressing room such as Roberts, laird and willock who were lazy and thought they were doing us a favour by being here, it was the absolute dross that ainsworth and dobson served up that got them the sack.

Long ball, no flair, 10 men behind the ball hoping for a 1 nil win if we were lucky mentality that they came up with. Comparing us to wycombe and having a small club outlook made the fans turn on them. But hit and hope tactics are LR won't be tolerated esp when you saw what MC did with the same squad.

[Abseits]

Whilst I agree that we had some complete ar5eholes in the dressing room such as Roberts, laird and willock who were lazy and thought they were doing us a favour by being here, it was the absolute dross that ainsworth and dobson served up that got them the sack.

Long ball, no flair, 10 men behind the ball hoping for a 1 nil win if we were lucky mentality that they came up with. Comparing us to wycombe and having a small club outlook made the fans turn on them. But hit and hope tactics are LR won't be tolerated esp when you saw what MC did with the same squad.

I think you have to look at last season's squad. I've randomly looked at a September matchday squad when Wild Thing's team played Boro off the park at their gaff and won 2-0. Gotta be honest, it don't look massively different to today's matchday squad... the main players who've now gone from that squad are:

Willock
Armstrong
Kakay
Dozzell
Begavic

There were some younger fringe players who are not here today too:

Duke-McKenna
Larkech
Kelman
EDB

I think the point Im trying to make is this.... I cant see all the of the above were "problematic" or part of some corrosive faction? IF there was some sort of schism back then I'd suggest that there are still some of them about the gaff. Maybe Marti smoothed things over and everyone's a happy bunny today though.

[72bus]

Would of loved it to work out for Gareth he's a decent fella , always gave 100% on the pitch.
But nice guys don't usually cut it as good managers

[davieqpr]

Doing an even worse job at Shrewsbury.

[SheepRanger]

Very underrated manager and I hope he will go on to manage England one day.

[Abseits]

Doing an even worse job at Shrewsbury.

They've beaten Wrexham and Birmingham under his stewardship. Must infuriate him, the owners, the fans, everyone, when a team can put in a shift/performance against stiff opposition but melt when they play plodders.

[FurtiveFox]

At every club you will have some players who want away because things have not worked out. Nothing unusual in that.

Agree GA came into a very difficult situation but afraid saw nothing over his tenure to suggest he was right man for the job. My take on it is he was brought in firstly to give team a lift to see us to safety. In the end we achieved that but almost in spite of GA rather than because of him. Secondly he had demonstrated he could work well with little to no budget in L1 and hope would have been he would be able to translate that to the Championship. It was no surprise to us fans there was no budget to play with so can't see it would have been any surprise to him. The start of the next season we were awful and had he stayed I suspect we would be in L1 now.

Also at the start of last season we were for 2-3 months one of the top teams so it was possible to get that squad playing reasonably well. Neither he or Critchley got to grips with it to arrest the decline. Last season Marti turned it around with largely the same group of players GA had at his disposal.

Real shame given GA's personality and status with the club but he just wasn't the right man. Sometimes things don't work out. Look at Emery at Villa, now seen as one of top managers in Prem yet flopped at Arsenal.

[SheepRanger]

My take on it is he was brought in firstly to give team a lift to see us to safety. In the end we achieved that but almost in spite of GA rather than because of him.

So basically his contribution was ZERO during his whole time with us?? He did f..all?

He achieved what was asked of him by keeping us up in his first season. To suggest he had no involvement in that achievement is disrespectful in my opinion.

He may not have been the best QPR manager, but in part, we are still in this league because he got the team over the line.

[Abseits]

So basically his contribution was ZERO during his whole time with us?? He did f..all?

He achieved what was asked of him by keeping us up in his first season. To suggest he had no involvement in that achievement is disrespectful in my opinion.

He may not have been the best QPR manager, but in part, we are still in this league because he got the team over the line.

Ainsworth kept us up and then a disastrous run over opening 16 or so games of last season and got sacked.

Cifuentes kept us up and then a disastrous run over opening 16 or so games of this season (actually had less points than Ainsworth had scraped together) saw Cifuenres awarded an extended contract.

Above is 100% factual - NOT subjective.

My subjective view is Ainsworth's style is basic, hardworking and not the prettiest to watch and Cifuentes's style is fiddly, technical and mostly boring.

Clearly the owners buy into Marti's approach and presumably feel he'll take the club forwards next season.

[WestcountryRanger]

I'm just reading that Ainsworth is jumping ship from Shrewsbury to take over at Gillingham...
I hope it works out for him as he can't really afford for it to go badly.

https://www.londonworld.com/sport/football/qpr/ex-qpr-boss-management-switch-5050023

[FurtiveFox]

So basically his contribution was ZERO during his whole time with us?? He did f..all?

He achieved what was asked of him by keeping us up in his first season. To suggest he had no involvement in that achievement is disrespectful in my opinion.

He may not have been the best QPR manager, but in part, we are still in this league because he got the team over the line.

I supported him longer than the vast majority on here but whilst he is a great guy and worked incredibly hard his record was dire - 5-4-19. He did nothing to arrest our decline and showed nothing to suggest that would change at the start of last season. Wrong man at wrong club at wrong time.

Last season we would have finished 22nd with that points total and that was after the head start old Snakie gave us. If we used GA's stats we would have finished bottom.

[SheepRanger]

I supported him longer than the vast majority on here but whilst he is a great guy and worked incredibly hard his record was dire - 5-4-19. He did nothing to arrest our decline and showed nothing to suggest that would change at the start of last season. Wrong man at wrong club at wrong time.

Last season we would have finished 22nd with that points total and that was after the head start old Snakie gave us. If we used GA's stats we would have finished bottom.

Of course the results weren't great, we had a great start under Beale but the rot started before he left with his last five games yielding 1D 4L. The squad was fresh and eager at the start of his tenure but the strength in depth wasn't there and he couldn't leave quick enough in the end. Critchley didn't do much better and was sacked. We can praise and blame managers as long as we like but the core issue was a poor squad after the Board did the three FFP money under Warburton's last season. To a point we're just coming through those restrictions.

Ainsworth won't go down as one of the greats of QPR managers, but as you say, he got us five wins and four draws.......if he was as bad as you suggest we wouldn't have got that. He did his bit under very difficult circumstances of being the third manager that season!!! We could have easily been relegated under Beale and Critchley, so to isolate Ainsworth is unfair in my opinion. Fair enough if you think differently.