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  • #46
    Originally posted by topperharley View Post

    I disagree with this.

    I've seen some really good performances from this side over the last couple of months, some have not come out with the right result either.

    Granted, some have been woeful, and some of those have actually come out with a positive result.

    Is Marti the messiah? Doubt it but i really think he's shown enough to answer most doubters, he's setting up to what he has available, what's possible and while there are some things we as fans disagree with, there can be no doubt we are improving.

    Proof will be at the end of this season and where we finish up. Playoffs are a very long shot but we are 100% on playoff place form at the moment. If we keep anything like this momentum then hey, anyone still broadly criticising 'the process' needs to have a think. Doesn't mean we can ever criticise of course.

    You win leagues on your bad days aswell as your good, and we're doing ok on our bad days, sign of a good team.

    That the majority of this match day squad is young really does bode well for next year, which is where I'm hoping for a genuine play off push.
    We have had some good performances lately but we have also had some woeful ones as well . Our results have been good even though the performances haven't , it is just my opinion that i believe we are'nt good enough to make the play offs , especially away from home. Hope i am wrong obviously.
    All this Marti is a great manager etc , is at the moment a load of rubbish , he was manager when we were rock bottom earlier in the season , so he got us into this mess . Yes fair play for turning it around but there is a lot to do before we can call him a great manager , maybe a couple more transfer windows and get some decent players and he can prove me wrong.

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    • #47
      To a few Mick Beale was the second coming.....

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      • #48
        Autos?
        Minds Are Like Parachutes.
        Work Best When Open...
        @Nowt2SeeHere

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Harrow QPR View Post

          We have had some good performances lately but we have also had some woeful ones as well . Our results have been good even though the performances haven't , it is just my opinion that i believe we are'nt good enough to make the play offs , especially away from home. Hope i am wrong obviously.
          All this Marti is a great manager etc , is at the moment a load of rubbish , he was manager when we were rock bottom earlier in the season , so he got us into this mess . Yes fair play for turning it around but there is a lot to do before we can call him a great manager , maybe a couple more transfer windows and get some decent players and he can prove me wrong.
          He kept us up against the odds last season. This season's bad start was a combo of massive injury list and new players to this division finding their feet. He is a great manager.

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          • #50
            Just stuck £10 on us to finish in the Top 6 @ 25/1 with Bet365.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Harrow QPR View Post

              We have had some good performances lately but we have also had some woeful ones as well . Our results have been good even though the performances haven't , it is just my opinion that i believe we are'nt good enough to make the play offs , especially away from home. Hope i am wrong obviously.
              All this Marti is a great manager etc , is at the moment a load of rubbish , he was manager when we were rock bottom earlier in the season , so he got us into this mess . Yes fair play for turning it around but there is a lot to do before we can call him a great manager , maybe a couple more transfer windows and get some decent players and he can prove me wrong.
              He was manager when rock bottom, however we can point to reasons we were struggling, new signings not working out (how much he had to do with them we don't know), in an injury plagued squad. Yes, it took him time to figure out, and we rode our luck in several games, but we have pulled out of that, taht's very very tough to do, to keep morale and faith amongst the squad and coaching staff.

              Again, is he great? Lets see, he's certainly better than average and he's certainly doing enough to make any doubters consider that he knows what he's doing at the very least.

              Let's look at our previous managers in recent times;
              Warbs - Cut off his nose to spite his face, was a decent coach but let himself down.
              Beale - Less said the better, but showed so much promise, who knows how long our downfall would have gone on for if he's stayed?
              Critchley - Way out of his depth
              Ainsworth - Love him, but wow that was poor football
              Marti - Compared to the above? He's well on the way to catching Warbs win %

              By the numbers Beale has the best %

              Marti is low, but should this form continue he'll be right up there by the end of the season.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by topperharley View Post

                He was manager when rock bottom, however we can point to reasons we were struggling, new signings not working out (how much he had to do with them we don't know), in an injury plagued squad. Yes, it took him time to figure out, and we rode our luck in several games, but we have pulled out of that, taht's very very tough to do, to keep morale and faith amongst the squad and coaching staff.

                Again, is he great? Lets see, he's certainly better than average and he's certainly doing enough to make any doubters consider that he knows what he's doing at the very least.

                Let's look at our previous managers in recent times;
                Warbs - Cut off his nose to spite his face, was a decent coach but let himself down.
                Beale - Less said the better, but showed so much promise, who knows how long our downfall would have gone on for if he's stayed?
                Critchley - Way out of his depth
                Ainsworth - Love him, but wow that was poor football
                Marti - Compared to the above? He's well on the way to catching Warbs win %

                By the numbers Beale has the best %

                Marti is low, but should this form continue he'll be right up there by the end of the season.
                You make some good points and i'm not saying Marti is a poor manager , just that i don't particularly like our defensive style that he plays , maybe he will change if he gets some different players in , i don't know. I can't knock our recent results , just this when we score we sit back , lets start dominating games then i will believe we can make the play offs.
                The worry about new players is , if they are of the same quality that we signed last summer we will be in trouble.
                Agree with your points on previous managers though.

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