Ilias Chair jailed?

[Sleeping Giants]

"Legal proceedings yet to reach its conclusion" so the next step is to lodge an appeal.

Just give the lorry driver £50k for him to withdraw his complaint against Chair. Money talks and Chair has some. Just pay him off.

Ah I see. Thanks.

[Sleeping Giants]

This mentions the appeal and states available to play Rotherham:

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/qpr-ilias-chair-prison-b1141169.html

[Abseits]

The way I read it, he has already appealed and will not be jailed until an appeal case is concluded. I do not know Belgium appeal procedures and the time it takes for the appeal to be scheduled, heard and the verdict announced, but I would assume he will play out the remainder of the season and possible even the start of the next season.

Before the case has found its conclusion, Chair is unsaleable.

Irrespective of an appeal there would be a moral question about continuing to play someone who has been found guilty in a court of bashing someone's head in with a rock. I wouldn't assume that this just all goes quiet while the "violent rich footballer chucks his money and elite lawyers at an appeal" (This is me using Sun Speak BTW).. Look at the hoo-ha that erupted when Greenwood's rape charges were dropped and Man Utd posited the idea of playing him - howls of indignation and outrage despite him not being guilty.

[WeAreQPR12]

Surely his head won't be right, I doubt the manager will take that risk in such an important game so works both ways abs

[SheepRanger]

Surely his head won't be right, I doubt the manager will take that risk in such an important game so works both ways abs

Im sure he'll still make the bench. He seems a strong lad and not a sulker. Long way to go on this story and his lawyers will have told him to throw the driver some dosh to make it go away.

[LoftusRoadLad]

Just been reported on TV BBC news

[WeAreQPR12]

Im sure he'll still make the bench. He seems a strong lad and not a sulker. Long way to go on this story and his lawyers will have told him to throw the driver some dosh to make it go away.

I think it's too big of a story now to brush it aside as you suggest sheep

[Macca]

The media just stirring up old news, the club knew about it a few years ago, so why would they leave him out, the whole court procedure would have to run it's course before the club makes any sort of decision.

[SheepRanger]

This case didn't stop that Turkish club offering £4.5m for him. They would have known about the case as it was in the public domain way before the Jan window.

Did Chair even turn up for the hearing? I just have a sneaky feeling this will go away eventually.

Failing that he should pitch up in Belgium in early May, do four months and be out for games from Sept. It will go to appeal, he'll get 6 months and be out within two months. Richards has been out of the picture for longer!!

[QPROslo]

I afraid that this case has been badly handled by Chair, his lawyers and QPR.

As far as I understand it, the case was first investigated by the French police, as the incident happened in France. The French police quickly put the case to rest. Thereafter, the Belgian truck driver, that was hit by a stone in the brawl, initiated a civil case in Belgium against Chair and two other persons, seeking compensation for the consequences of his injury.

Chair claimed he was not the one to throw the stone, and refused to appear in a hearing in Belgium. He sent a written statement.

I think this is not the way to address a civil lawsuit, whether you are guilty or not. Even though you think a case is utter nonsense, you have to turn up to defend yourself. Not being willing to turn up is taken as disrespect for the court. You risk that the other side is heard and your written statement overlooked.

I was not in France when the incident happened, and don't not know any details of the incident, but the fact that the French police saw no reason to press charges against anyone is an important fact in the case. Chair and his legal team claim that the truck driver is trying his luck, looking for money from a rich football player. There are many rich persons that simply pay up to put cases to bed, even though they are not guilty.

I understand Chair has now got a new lawyer. Chair and his new legal team turned up in the court when the verdict was read out, asking to get the chance to present their case. This is not the way to do it. It is simply too late. Chair should have appeared in court when the case was heard if the first place, irrespective of whether he thought is was a made up allegation.

Football players are not always that smart. If Chair does not know how to look after his own interest in the best possible way, or pick good legal advisers, QPR should certainly know. He is an important player, and I expect from my club to advice players properly in such circumstances, as we will have to deal with the consequences if a law suit is badly handled.

I think that Chairs written explanation was given little weight in court. Hopefully, when the appeal case is heard, the outcome will be very different, and in line with the French conclusion.

However, this is a distraction that QPR and Chair could be without. I hope this is a learning lesson for the club. QPR needs to act much more professionally. I doubt this would have happened in a Premier League club. They would have made sure the player had top notch lawyers and handled a law suit in a professional way.

[SheepRanger]

Oslo,

How can you be sent to prison from a civil case brought by the truck driver? In the UK a civil case would only be for compensation, not your liberty.

All very strange!!

[Mem]

I afraid that this case has been badly handled by Chair, his lawyers and QPR.

As far as I understand it, the case was first investigated by the French police, as the incident happened in France. The French police quickly put the case to rest. Thereafter, the Belgian truck driver, that was hit by a stone in the brawl, initiated a civil case in Belgium against Chair and two other persons, seeking compensation for the consequences of his injury.

Chair claimed he was not the one to throw the stone, and refused to appear in a hearing in Belgium. He sent a written statement.

I think this is not the way to address a civil lawsuit, whether you are guilty or not. Even though you think a case is utter nonsense, you have to turn up to defend yourself. Not being willing to turn up is taken as disrespect for the court. You risk that the other side is heard and your written statement overlooked.

I was not in France when the incident happened, and don't not know any details of the incident, but the fact that the French police saw no reason to press charges against anyone is an important fact in the case. Chair and his legal team claim that the truck driver is trying his luck, looking for money from a rich football player. There are many rich persons that simply pay up to put cases to bed, even though they are not guilty.

I understand Chair has now got a new lawyer. Chair and his new legal team turned up in the court when the verdict was read out, asking to get the chance to present their case. This is not the way to do it. It is simply too late. Chair should have appeared in court when the case was heard if the first place, irrespective of whether he thought is was a made up allegation.

Football players are not always that smart. If Chair does not know how to look after his own interest in the best possible way, or pick good legal advisers, QPR should certainly know. He is an important player, and I expect from my club to advice players properly in such circumstances, as we will have to deal with the consequences if a law suit is badly handled.

I think that Chairs written explanation was given little weight in court. Hopefully, when the appeal case is heard, the outcome will be very different, and in line with the French conclusion.

However, this is a distraction that QPR and Chair could be without. I hope this is a learning lesson for the club. QPR needs to act much more professionally. I doubt this would have happened in a Premier League club. They would have made sure the player had top notch lawyers and handled a law suit in a professional way.

Great info mate - thank you.

We’ll find out at 2pm if he features or not today I guess

[3London]

I afraid that this case has been badly handled by Chair, his lawyers and QPR.

As far as I understand it, the case was first investigated by the French police, as the incident happened in France. The French police quickly put the case to rest. Thereafter, the Belgian truck driver, that was hit by a stone in the brawl, initiated a civil case in Belgium against Chair and two other persons, seeking compensation for the consequences of his injury.

Chair claimed he was not the one to throw the stone, and refused to appear in a hearing in Belgium. He sent a written statement.

I think this is not the way to address a civil lawsuit, whether you are guilty or not. Even though you think a case is utter nonsense, you have to turn up to defend yourself. Not being willing to turn up is taken as disrespect for the court. You risk that the other side is heard and your written statement overlooked.

I was not in France when the incident happened, and don't not know any details of the incident, but the fact that the French police saw no reason to press charges against anyone is an important fact in the case. Chair and his legal team claim that the truck driver is trying his luck, looking for money from a rich football player. There are many rich persons that simply pay up to put cases to bed, even though they are not guilty.

I understand Chair has now got a new lawyer. Chair and his new legal team turned up in the court when the verdict was read out, asking to get the chance to present their case. This is not the way to do it. It is simply too late. Chair should have appeared in court when the case was heard if the first place, irrespective of whether he thought is was a made up allegation.

Football players are not always that smart. If Chair does not know how to look after his own interest in the best possible way, or pick good legal advisers, QPR should certainly know. He is an important player, and I expect from my club to advice players properly in such circumstances, as we will have to deal with the consequences if a law suit is badly handled.

I think that Chairs written explanation was given little weight in court. Hopefully, when the appeal case is heard, the outcome will be very different, and in line with the French conclusion.

However, this is a distraction that QPR and Chair could be without. I hope this is a learning lesson for the club. QPR needs to act much more professionally. I doubt this would have happened in a Premier League club. They would have made sure the player had top notch lawyers and handled a law suit in a professional way.

Not sure it’s the clubs responsibility to provide top notch lawyers - if any of us assaulted someone on our holidays would we expect our employer to provide us with a lawyer? I doubt it . Had he been representing the club at the time then maybe. I don’t think Ben stokes was represented by his club or country when he smashed the bloke up in the pub car park.

[shaggy24]

If and fan had been accused of alleged incident our employers would be you got yourself into this mess sort it yourself

Given it was a civil issue as others have said bung him months pay amd get on with his life

[topperharley]

You know what, if he did this, which seems to not be under question, f**k him. We all get into situations every now and then but we don't use rocks to bash peoples head in over nothing. It's not a home invader or someone threatening his kids. There's no excuse for this kind of behaviour and i hope he faces the full extent of the law, if true.

No smoke without fire and the fact 2 others are implicated seems to indicate there's an excessive use of force against this guy. It's not like he's lamped someone in a nightclub, this is different.

We don't need him to stay up, if all this comes to light as fact we should have bitten that Turkish sides hand off.