Ransey gone cut backs

[SheepRanger]

lol .. give it a rest . Your like Conorqpr2000 posting on loft for words saying same things .
that post went down well for him .

im convinced your the same person who was saying this before and then making a new profile pretending to be a qpr fan from New York to back up your statement.

You honestly believe we have been sold and the new owners are sacking folk .

You think not one person or journalist would not found this out ?

my mind boggles what goes through folks minds .

everyone to there own i suppose

AKA Springbok

[shaggy24]

its just cost cutting showing our financial position is worst than we all thought

expect more to come

people think getting relegated will be a good reset and we can come back stronger

we get relegated we will go bust . We can’t compete now with the income revenue we get!
we go down that income will be less than half we get now .. you do the maths we as a business would of been liquidated by now

FFP IS TO BLAME NOT THE OWNERS

I'm glad it's not just me that views relegation as reset but as a step towards going belly up

I've had the view that a loss of 39m isn't the same if players earn 10k a month in wigan or Sunderland as examples they can bank a far greater proportion of wages than Central London should be be pro rata on location than carte blanche

Division 3 or L1 im not convinced we will recover from all that quick

[Kingaustin]

I'm glad it's not just me that views relegation as reset but as a step towards going belly up

I've had the view that a loss of 39m isn't the same if players earn 10k a month in wigan or Sunderland as examples they can bank a far greater proportion of wages than Central London should be be pro rata on location than carte blanche

Division 3 or L1 im not convinced we will recover from all that quick

We won’t recover from it .
personal I would take a gamble and spend and take a 10 point deduction next season least we would of had a go .

I still believe we have a good enough team when everyone is fit to stay up . We don’t win 3 games in a row without a good team . Unfortunately we had injuries etc .

we will get the 10 wins needed . Starting with 3 this month.

we can do it

[Harrow QPR]

Great news , getting rid of Ramsey , still got a load of Ferdinands other cronies to get rid of .
Be great if we were getting new owners , i think it's more to do with our present owner realising that we have been on a downward spiral since Ferdinand and his cronies have been here and is finally getting rid.

[Harrow QPR]

We won’t recover from it .
personal I would take a gamble and spend and take a 10 point deduction next season least we would of had a go .

I still believe we have a good enough team when everyone is fit to stay up . We don’t win 3 games in a row without a good team . Unfortunately we had injuries etc .

we will get the 10 wins needed . Starting with 3 this month.

we can do it

Ideally i would like us to get some loans this window and we could stay up but it would'nt be the end of the world if we went down because we could get rid of most of our squad and start again . The only thing that would worry me would be our scouts etc getting the correct players and going on previous signings their record is'nt very good.

[DJ Hooper W12]

You can analyse as much as you like were crap far too often

nice guy but had 9 yrs and we've got nowhere that's bottom line

nail on the head comes to mind

[shaggy24]

Ideally i would like us to get some loans this window and we could stay up but it would'nt be the end of the world if we went down because we could get rid of most of our squad and start again . The only thing that would worry me would be our scouts etc getting the correct players and going on previous signings their record is'nt very good.

Scouting is the main issue ours is diabolical, I can only use pboro where I live as an example for ease

They paid 600k for Toney sold 10m
Edwards Barnet 250k going for probably 7.5m
Taylor Barnet 200k went for 1.5 to ipswich in summer
Assombalonga 1m went for 6m
Gayle 300k went for 5 ish

Bar Toney they all within m25 i watched Toney play for scunthorpe before pboro move stood out like a sore thumb his talent

Yep they bought some don't work out but 500k gambles but who the he'll watched Bonne, washington who was on a purple patch but really wasnt cut out for our level plus Dozzell we paid money and paid them off. Les gone now but someone's gotta step up amd sort recruitment out ASAP I'd love warnock to come as dof he's got contacts everywhere been employed by most clubs will only get grafters willing to sweat blood. This windows crucial we all know that will we get it right I hope ao but not confident

[newyorksky10]

King Austin, I read one of your posts last year when you said the club would be sold. Most of us read those comments.

These are my comments and mine alone. I'm not pretending to be anyone else. I'm expressing my opinion of what I think is going to happen.

I will stick by what I said earlier. I've wanted these owners out for years. The worst owners I've seen at QPR without question.

They know their time is up. We need new owners coming in ASAP. I think we will see them by summer the latest.

[Kingaustin]

King Austin, I read one of your posts last year when you said the club would be sold. Most of us read those comments.

These are my comments and mine alone. I'm not pretending to be anyone else. I'm expressing my opinion of what I think is going to happen.

I will stick by what I said earlier. I've wanted these owners out for years. The worst owners I've seen at QPR without question.

They know their time is up. We need new owners coming in ASAP. I think we will see them by summer the latest.

Hi springbok
I’ve never said we will be sold you have me mistaken for someone else .

you was the one who saw a post somewhere and believed we was being sold and have carried it on . You’ve even said yesterday the “new owners” have sacked Ramsay !

Then you make a profile pretending to be American (because you think Americans will take over ) and carry it on .
its boring now !

if we get sold we get sold great news but its never going to happen you honestly think these owners haven’t tried .. course they have !
who in there right mind will buy us ?? Who ever does will loose money every single day why would they do that .

you must be the only qpr fan in New York funny enough im over there in June for holiday pop me over your email be good to have a beer with you and that will prove your not springbok

[Kingaustin]

New York sky 10
ip address and location is London unless you’ve traveled from New York to London to watch us on Saturday fair play .. but I smell … bs
the cats out the bag we all know your springbok … sad sad sad man

[Stanfan]

Thought for a long time we have had too many highly paid guys in the management structures for a club our size. I suspect we’ll reduce the number of coaches as well. As for the owners their main fault has been trying to please the noisy fans on social media and looks like this has come to an end. About time. I’m really grateful we have owners who have poured money in to keep us afloat. Teams like Peterborough seem great at recruitment but are not getting promoted with all the money they get from transfers . The recruit we need is a Clint, Derry tough nut who can provide a tougher streak to the team and sort out issues on the field during the game like short guys marking big guys. We shouldnt have to run over to the manager all the time to ask…

[Fraggy]

New York sky 10
ip address and location is London unless you’ve traveled from New York to London to watch us on Saturday fair play .. but I smell … bs
the cats out the bag we all know your springbok … sad sad sad man

It's not London, and it's not New York.
It comes back as the same location it was months back when the American takeover rumour first started..

[Abseits]

The simple fact is this: anyone who's been at club over past several years has been part of consistent and systematic failure and underachievement. It therefore can't be a surprise to see any of them move on. This might mean there could be collateral damage with decent committed hardworking folks getting eased out but the bottom line is we need a massive reset, back to the drawingboard and start afresh from virtually scratch.

[Kingaustin]

It's not London, and it's not New York.
It comes back as the same location it was months back when the American takeover rumour first started..

It’s posting from London my friend

it’s what I do for a job ;)

[QPROslo]

Scouting is the main issue ours is diabolical, I can only use pboro where I live as an example for ease

They paid 600k for Toney sold 10m
Edwards Barnet 250k going for probably 7.5m
Taylor Barnet 200k went for 1.5 to ipswich in summer
Assombalonga 1m went for 6m
Gayle 300k went for 5 ish

Bar Toney they all within m25 i watched Toney play for scunthorpe before pboro move stood out like a sore thumb his talent

Yep they bought some don't work out but 500k gambles but who the he'll watched Bonne, washington who was on a purple patch but really wasnt cut out for our level plus Dozzell we paid money and paid them off. Les gone now but someone's gotta step up amd sort recruitment out ASAP I'd love warnock to come as dof he's got contacts everywhere been employed by most clubs will only get grafters willing to sweat blood. This windows crucial we all know that will we get it right I hope ao but not confident

Scouting is just part of player logistics. Finding the bright talent is one thing, managing the sales side of it is apparently even more complicated.

We have identified and signed many talented young players. Some that comes to mind are:


Bright Osayi-Samuel
Eberechi Eze
Illias Chair
Chris Willock
Ryan Manning
Seny Dieng
Raheem Sterling

BOS is now said to be worth £10m. He was worth north of £5m when he was at the peak of his QPR career, but we got the timing and execution of a sale all wrong. 18 months before the end of his contract we received an offer from abroad of £4-5m if I am not mistaken. This was discounted already at that point, as his contract was nearing its end. BOS rejected and played a game with us (pretending he was interested in prolonging the contract when he clearly wasn't) and he ended up leaving for peanuts a few months prior to his contract running out. I cannot point to where the club made it wrong, but the scouting wasn't the problem, but the handling of the contract situation and the exit.

Eze was handled brilliantly. Top notch. Fantastic scouting. If we indeed have a 25% sell-on clause for the full sales amount it might land us another £15-20m if we are lucky. It was fantastic news that his contract was recently extended - best news of the season so far.

Illias Chair. Great piece of work and fantastic scouting. If we get £6m, it will be a good piece of business. Lets see how this pans out. I see some fans wanting to hold on to him. That is opposite to my thinking. If we do not cash in on our better players when valuation is good, we will never progress.

Chris Willock. Again a good recruitment, but like BOS, the timing of his exit is catastrophic (assuming he does not extend but leave for free after the season or for a small nominal fee this window). Once again, I cannot say if we did anything wrong during January or summer of 2022, when the valuation was its highest, but scouting was certainly not the problem.

Ryan Manning: See BOS and Willock. Good scouting, poor contract management.

Seny Dieng: Sold one year too late. The value is normally doing down hill once there is two years or less left of the contract. We should have prolonged or sold in 2022. But selling requires a bidder as we know. However, once again good scouting, picking him up from Germany for free.

Raheem Sterling. Good recruitment/development (he came through the youth). The problem is the rules for none-professional players, that give clubs like us no protection against the big fishes. But we negotiated a great sell-on clause, so contract wise it was excellent handed, like Eze.

My point: Our scouting isn't as bad as someone portraits. We have quite a fair number of mishits (like Washington and Bonne), but if a club gets 1 out of 3 recruitment right they seem to do quite well, and we have got a fair few right. It is the contract management and selling at the right time that is the biggest problem. However, I am the first one to agree that we need a bidder to conduct a sales, so it is not always entirely up to QPR. But if I should point to the biggest weakness in players logistics, it is the sale side of things, even though scouting can always be better.

I do not know if we received a bid for Field last summer, but there was at least some press speculation. If there was a bid, reportedly around £3m, I would have sold unless Field signed an extension.

The only way we can progress is scouting well, sell when we have good offers, and reinvest wisely. Rinse and repeat. This is the Brentford model and it is the only way for a small club.