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  • What does it take to fire a DOF? What does it take for one to step down?

    Examples of DOF's getting fired or stepping down.

    It is evident now that whether through incompetence, favouritism, naievety, any reason,; Les has failed. Anyone can see that and even if the clubs ownership cannot relate to footballing know how, failure is failure and there is always someone at fault.

    So what is Les' timeline? Do we really think he'll be at the helm if we go down? Do we think he's being held accountable even now? Where does Hoos come into this? I don't think he is to blame, you may not like the guy bu his decisions don't relate directly to the pitch, should he held more accountable for what Les has done wrong? Should he have stepped in beyond his remit on certain decisions?

  • #2
    He's made 1 decent appointment in Beale apart from that he's a waste of space and income.e

    I know he scouted washington and bonne we laid both off

    Amit and Co need to fk him off and get even Holloway to do his job he picked up Eze and Charlie Adam I believe he paid for at Blackpool

    The club must have a boardroom clear out for any chance of progress

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    • #3
      Ferdinand is just a well paid puppet for the incompetent owners to hide behind.

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      • #4
        Tend to agree with the mincer. Plenty of blame is pointed at Sir Les however, some of you that may have been sent on a management course would have been told by the training consultant that any business needs a structural plan and that comes from the top. If you think of the owners as the roots to our tree, without them being healthy and growing strong the rest of the tree is irrelevant because it will die without that solid base. The owners have had long enough to have something in place, yet Amit Ruben or Tony have nothing in place.
        I played sunday league football today.

        Clearly I was the best player on the pitch.

        I scored 5 and made 7 last ditch tackles.

        We lost 5-0 but the rest of my team were sh it!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by WeAreQPR12 View Post
          Tend to agree with the mincer. Plenty of blame is pointed at Sir Les however, some of you that may have been sent on a management course would have been told by the training consultant that any business needs a structural plan and that comes from the top. If you think of the owners as the roots to our tree, without them being healthy and growing strong the rest of the tree is irrelevant because it will die without that solid base. The owners have had long enough to have something in place, yet Amit Ruben or Tony have nothing in place.
          That's because they lack a vision and a plan and the b@llacks to see the plan through.

          we're heading for operation administration if they gad some steel about them they'd of been looing in other boroughs for land long ago

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          • #6
            Originally posted by WeAreQPR12 View Post
            Tend to agree with the mincer. Plenty of blame is pointed at Sir Les however, some of you that may have been sent on a management course would have been told by the training consultant that any business needs a structural plan and that comes from the top. If you think of the owners as the roots to our tree, without them being healthy and growing strong the rest of the tree is irrelevant because it will die without that solid base. The owners have had long enough to have something in place, yet Amit Ruben or Tony have nothing in place.
            They do have a plan.

            Fill the team with loan players and ball players that might get sold to the premiership. They have been so focused on resales that they've forgotten to buy the odd clogger with fight. These rufty tuffty players dont make it to the premership and its deemeed as a wasted slot and takes up a place in the shop window. We dont have a balanced team as a result.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MINCER View Post
              Ferdinand is just a well paid puppet for the incompetent owners to hide behind.
              I think puppet is a poor choice of words as it indicates the owners are pulling strings to effect a plan, which also has sinister undertones.

              Shield them from errors (which have been made in the past) and to also implement their vision for the club would be the two over riding points behind Les. However both board and Les are proving to be ineffective.

              There's nothing sinister here, just naieve, poor management without oversight.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by topperharley View Post

                I think puppet is a poor choice of words as it indicates the owners are pulling strings to effect a plan, which also has sinister undertones.

                Shield them from errors (which have been made in the past) and to also implement their vision for the club would be the two over riding points behind Les. However both board and Les are proving to be ineffective.

                There's nothing sinister here, just naieve, poor management without oversight.
                Pi££ing 500k down the toilet a week must have some bloody oversight when it yields a side that's terrible takes catastrophic miss management as fans you have to consider how much lower will it get. I can't see us surviving without a total overhaul top to bottom

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                • #9
                  Poor oversight then.

                  When does the board decide to sack him? Will they? Will Les walk first? Does he think he's done anything wrong?

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                  • #10
                    DOF does have a lot of responsibility to work within a budget. I think Les does okay in this respect plus I still think the bulk of our acquisitions over last several years have looked reasonable on paper and it's only in hindsight you can rubbish the likes of Bonne or Washington or whoever.
                    I agree that Les should be under close scrutiny and be accountable but c'mon, as of mid-October this season it looked like he'd played a blinder in terms of team/manager when we were riding high.
                    I'm pretty sure likes of Sheffield United and WBA will implode this summer if they don't go up and I suspect there are several other teams who are gonna have to massively cut-back this summer too. I don't consider we are in such dire straits off the pitch notwithstanding potential relegation of course. Anyway, fact we have a team of meek mentally weak players seems more of an issue to question manager, coaches, trainers and medics about and not the suits upstairs.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Abseits View Post
                      DOF does have a lot of responsibility to work within a budget. I think Les does okay in this respect plus I still think the bulk of our acquisitions over last several years have looked reasonable on paper and it's only in hindsight you can rubbish the likes of Bonne or Washington or whoever.
                      I agree that Les should be under close scrutiny and be accountable but c'mon, as of mid-October this season it looked like he'd played a blinder in terms of team/manager when we were riding high.
                      I'm pretty sure likes of Sheffield United and WBA will implode this summer if they don't go up and I suspect there are several other teams who are gonna have to massively cut-back this summer too. I don't consider we are in such dire straits off the pitch notwithstanding potential relegation of course. Anyway, fact we have a team of meek mentally weak players seems more of an issue to question manager, coaches, trainers and medics about and not the suits upstairs.
                      Hes been in the role for eight years, and what have we achieved in that time....Nothing.

                      He has to be moved on.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by shaggy24 View Post
                        He's made 1 decent appointment in Beale apart from that he's a waste of space and income.e
                        Was talking about this yesterday. Beale's appointment was ultimately a huge mistake because of the effects it set in motion. It's easy in hindsight but one of the things you're looking at when interviewing someone for an appointment is the character and psychology of the candidate. You're looking at how ambitious they are but also how that contrasts with their loyalty. Beale was clearly actively ambitious and using Rangers as a stepping stone to better things and was possible eyeing Van Bronckhorst's situation quite early. That's not a problem if you recruit him despite his hunger for better things but you sure as hell need to note that and have a contingency in place for the inevitable. If you haven't done that it would suggest a management weakness. If you're surprised that's on you. If you have no plan, that's even more inept. I don't like to bash anyone's decisions too hard because I don't have all the information to reach that conclusion but the body of evidence that is available from over the past decade, or longer, suggests some serious management flaws and ones that haven't been corrected.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by topperharley View Post

                          I think puppet is a poor choice of words as it indicates the owners are pulling strings to effect a plan, which also has sinister undertones.

                          Shield them from errors (which have been made in the past) and to also implement their vision for the club would be the two over riding points behind Les. However both board and Les are proving to be ineffective.

                          There's nothing sinister here, just naieve, poor management without oversight.
                          I find it extremely unlikely that Ferdinand proposed that Ainsworth should be our next manager and would suggest that’s why Ruben and Amit were interviewed immediately after and Ferdinand was nowhere to be seen.

                          These inept owners have lots of history for interference and poor decisions.

                          The words I used were my choice and I stand by them, it’s no coincidence that H@ F Council view them in a similar light.

                          Why don’t you try a simple Google on the QPR Property Development Company that’s been set up and see how much money that they’ve raked in but we never hear about?

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                          • #14
                            The aim has been to develop players to sell to make us financilt sustainable and develop our own players for the first team. Only Eze hss been sold for decent money and there arent many academy players in the squad

                            Company strategy has failed on both fronts without any accountability so far.

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                            • #15
                              I think the plan they have is flawed because we have seen these players that should be moved on at a good profit they don't.

                              They think when we are riding high we will get to the promise land which we know is so difficult.

                              I know it's a fine balancing act and I think willock could have been sold for good money but the injuries have scuppered that.

                              Dieng had a good period and could of been sold for good money I believe he has one year left on contract if no option to extend now worth very little.

                              The one most surprised at is chair should have been sold ( if interest was really their ). I see him doing really well in a championship team that's doing well but personally don't think he will cut it in the premier League.

                              So I guess what I am saying we should have excepted we were an average championship side and sold at the right time until we had finances it a better state.

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