Tbh Hradecky is the only Finnish player who would fit any Euro2020 squad. Kamara and Pukki would be good enough for perhaps 7-8 other squads. Noone else would fit any other team. Finnish team is much better than the sum of its individual players.
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Originally posted by Timmy the Doc View PostTbh Hradecky is the only Finnish player who would fit any Euro2020 squad. Kamara and Pukki would be good enough for perhaps 7-8 other squads. Noone else would fit any other team. Finnish team is much better than the sum of its individual players.
We had a so-called "golden generation" 10-15 years ago that was believed to take Finland finally to the major tournament. Our keepers Niemi & Jääskeläinen combined about 550-600 PL games, we had Hyypiä over 400 game for Liverpool, other defenders played for Anderlecht, Ajax, Werder Bremen. In midfield we had players from PSV Eindhoven, Crystal Palace, Tottenham and of course Jari Litmanen, in attack we had Mikael Forssell scored 17 goals in his best season in PL for Birmingham and Jonatan Johansson played in PL for Charlton and was starting player for them. Of course Shefki Kuqi too who scored over 100 goals in the Championship, for different clubs.
Main problem was that we never won when it really matters. In a qualifying games we got good results once our chanches had gone and in friendly games we beat countries like Portugal away 4-1. Beat Greece 5-1 and so on, and draw 3 straight games against Germany. Since 1999 we had played against Belgium 7 times and haven´t lost once, won 4 and draw 3 (most probably we will lose on monday). We played some really nice attacking football then with those players, but like i said we always blew it at some point. But todays squad is like been said many times is a TEAM, not the best individuals,but very tight collective and disciplined. It s not pretty always,but it got us to the Euros and got nice results in a Nations League Group B (not bad for the semi-pros to beat Ireland twice for example, a squad full of players from PL and Championship. If Finland players are semi-pro what are the Irish then?).
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The word «semi pros» is hardly ever used when a Championship team play badly. I have seem some shocking Championship teams over the years and a match I watched between B’ham and Luton just a few months ago springs to mind. There was hardly three successive passes to a team mate put together during the entire match snd I am not exacerating. But I have never seem any poster calling teams or players in our League semi pros, whatever lousy they have been. They might be very poor, and it is sometimes hard to believe they practise fotball every day, but still the Word semi pro id not used.
But once talking about players from small nations like Finland the word semi pro pops up. Pukki and the other players might not always play that well but lets give them some respect. We never call Wycombe semi pros, so why give this label to smaller countries that are not exactly up to the standard of Italy, France or Ingerland. The didcussion is not about the quality of the Finnish team against Denmark or Russia, but the label put on players from smaller countries. That was my point.
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The one thing as fans we never take into consideration is that there are two teams on the pitch, doing their level best to stop the other playing.
I think when you have a small nation playing against a team from a country with bigger leagues to choose from then of course they will struggle. The bigger the leagues the more players to select.
Same as when QPR have what we call a bad day.
Not only against bigger clubs, but the opposition have worked better at stopping us.
Apart from the fact that players are human and have bad days.
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Originally posted by FurtiveFox View PostEngland have zero chance. Same story every time. Loads of hype and very little delivery. Think Southgate doing fine with what he has but too much of what he has is bang average.
They may not win the Euros, but can give any side a decent game.
I think they have some decent players in the squad and would like to see Southgate be a bit more adventurous with his tactics and team selection. They should have beaten Scotland and would have if they had been more minded to attack. There was no service to Kane and 2 holding midfielders was a totally wrong choice from Southgate.
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Originally posted by FurtiveFox View PostEngland have zero chance. Same story every time. Loads of hype and very little delivery. Think Southgate doing fine with what he has but too much of what he has is bang average.
Some of these lads are very lucky to be English and playing in the English premier league to be able to pick up the wages they do. The wages dont reflect their abilities and theyd be on a fraction of this if born in another country and playing in another league.
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Originally posted by stainrodisalegend View Post
Seriously?
Most likely the tournament is now over for Finland, but at least we did not finish last in the group or in the tournament and i´m proud of that, thats a decent achievement from the first timers. I think WeAreQPR12 hope it was also the last time
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Originally posted by stainrodisalegend View Post
Seriously?I played sunday league football today.
Clearly I was the best player on the pitch.
I scored 5 and made 7 last ditch tackles.
We lost 5-0 but the rest of my team were sh it!
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