STEFAN Johansen

[Shania]

Have a word with him Shania, we need 100% Effort!

Effort is not an issue with Stefan Johansen

[Shania]

As a Norwegian I hope this works out. I am not quite sure it will. I am afraid he will not be up to Carrolls standard but I hope I am wrong.

The Norwegian fans on the qpr.no message board are negative, and of the opinion Johansen is not the same player as he used to be. He has been woeful when playing for Norway. Take it for what it is worth, but Hamalainen has been a better player on international level last two years.

Warburton is good to get players overachieving. Hopefully he will rediscover the old Stefan Johansen same way as he has done with Carroll. Johansen has not played a competitive league match for half a year - lets be patient. It will take some time before Johansen is fully match fit. He has no pre-season, so to say.

However, one thing is certain: Johansen is a fighter that will always give 100%. He is a leader on and off the pitch which is helpful given the many inexperienced players we have.

But, to be fair, many posters on qpr.no would have loved to give Holloway a 10 years contract when he was here last...

[Abseits]

As a Norwegian I hope this works out. I am not quite sure it will. I am afraid he will not be up to Carrolls standard but I hope I am wrong.

The Norwegian fans on the qpr.no message board are negative, and of the opinion Johansen is not the same player as he used to be. He has been woeful when playing for Norway. Take it for what it is worth, but Hamalainen has been a better player on international level last two years.

Warburton is good to get players overachieving. Hopefully he will rediscover the old Stefan Johansen same way as he has done with Carroll. Johansen has not played a competitive league match for half a year - lets be patient. It will take some time before Johansen is fully match fit. He has no pre-season, so to say.

However, one thing is certain: Johansen is a fighter that will always give 100%. He is a leader on and off the pitch which is helpful given the many inexperienced players we have.

That is utter nonsense, complete tosh and a frankly demented thing to write. Don't think you can hide that sort of misinformation within a longer unrelated post - you'll never get it past me unchallenged bucko!

[QPROslo]

Hi Abseits, hope you are feeling better in the meantime.

I think Warburton has got more out of Ball than Rotherham did, more out of Wells than Bristol City is doing, more out of Hugill than Norwich is doing and Middlesbrough did, more out of Carroll than Swansea did, more out of Rangel than Swansea did last season before he came to us, more out of Cameron than Stoke did in his last season with them.

I think Eze, BOS, Manning, Kakay developed better under him than under McClaren. It looks good for Dickie and Dieng.

On the minus side we can put Lumley and Adomah so far. Barbet is probably a nutral one - not better, not worse than at Brentford. Dykes and Bonne have started poorly but might change.

But over all it looks to me he can turn base metal into something better every now and then and I hope it will happen to Johansen.

[MINCER]

As a Norwegian I hope this works out. I am not quite sure it will. I am afraid he will not be up to Carrolls standard but I hope I am wrong.

The Norwegian fans on the qpr.no message board are negative, and of the opinion Johansen is not the same player as he used to be. He has been woeful when playing for Norway. Take it for what it is worth, but Hamalainen has been a better player on international level last two years.

Warburton is good to get players overachieving. Hopefully he will rediscover the old Stefan Johansen same way as he has done with Carroll. Johansen has not played a competitive league match for half a year - lets be patient. It will take some time before Johansen is fully match fit. He has no pre-season, so to say.

However, one thing is certain: Johansen is a fighter that will always give 100%. He is a leader on and off the pitch which is helpful given the many inexperienced players we have.

Is this what’s called covering all bases.

I would suggest he’s better than what’s currently here.

[LoftusRoadLad]

Looking forward seeing a no nonsense team.

[supahupa10101]

Guys seriously, you believe this signing is real? Them pics are fake. How have we signed him when James Nutt hasnt said so? This is fake news

[stanistheman]

No doubt, I presume.. And yes, the QPR fan base is quite large and many have us as their second favourite team in England.

Is that because we beat Brann Bergan 11-0 on aggregate in 1977?

[Shania]

Is that because we beat Brann Bergan 11-0 on aggregate in 1977?

Hehe, maybe. I think Many norwegians still remember Stan Bowles & Co. Les ferdinand and his team also of course.

[Pal]

I can't believe he is getting a slagging before he has even kicked a ball for us, some people need to take a long hard look at themselves.

IMHO he is exaxctly what we need, has 3 years of championship experince and was part of a promotion winning side.
Has more steel than Carroll or Amos and better distributuon than Cameron or Ball, he even wades in with a few goals himself.

Welcome Stefan.

[QPROslo]

I can't believe he is getting a slagging before he has even kicked a ball for us, some people need to take a long hard look at themselves.

He is not getting slagged off at this site. Just a dose of reality check not to get too high expectations, particularly in the beginning. I would love him to succeed and prove to the many Norwegian fans that he still has it in him.

[Abseits]

Hi Abseits, hope you are feeling better in the meantime.

I think Warburton has got more out of Ball than Rotherham did, more out of Wells than Bristol City is doing, more out of Hugill than Norwich is doing and Middlesbrough did, more out of Carroll than Swansea did, more out of Rangel than Swansea did last season before he came to us, more out of Cameron than Stoke did in his last season with them.

I think Eze, BOS, Manning, Kakay developed better under him than under McClaren. It looks good for Dickie and Dieng.

On the minus side we can put Lumley and Adomah so far. Barbet is probably a nutral one - not better, not worse than at Brentford. Dykes and Bonne have started poorly but might change.

But over all it looks to me he can turn base metal into something better every now and then and I hope it will happen to Johansen.

More nonsense! Bonne has a decent record with every former manager. His goals have dried up under Warburton. Ditto with Dykes - he is NOT working his "magic" on these is he? Barbet has been a huge disappointment - he should be a dominant leader on the pitch but he's an inconsistent mouse - again, not seeing the Warburton "magic" at all with Barbet.

Adomah is irrelevant. He's an old man and is what he is. Same with Kane, nobody could make a footballer out of him. However, Warburton virtually ruined Lumley. His handling of Joe was frankly appalling, bordering on malicious and spiteful.... constantly playing a shell-shocked keeper who's confidence was manifestly shot.

Younger players have just naturally developed/matured over past couple of years. Eze and BOS were talented from the get go and just evolved. Same for Chair but I'm not actually convinced he's as effective as he ought to be. As for all our other "kids" they have been frankly useless and have not developed one iota and I doubt they are actually championship quality. I don't actually blame Warburton for that but you seem to want to pat him on the back simply for playing them (and quickly dropping them again).

Lastly, Hugill and Wells are experienced proven Championship scorers, Warburton played them during the "kamikaze phase" where we scored lots of goals and conceded even more. That brainless idiotic approach lasted a few months and hence Wells/Hugill boosted their goals record. Once we adopted a more sensible balanced shape the goals pretty much dried up for the pair of them.

The rest of the players are just performing how I'd expect a professional footballer to perform.

There is no compelling evidence that Warburton has some sort of knack for improving players. His overall record here and our league position certainly don't offer any evidence of this. I don't want to turn this thread into Warburton-bashing thread but you cannot expect to blithely say something like Warburton is good at getting the best out of players without getting challenged.

Whatever, everyone is entitled to their opinion. If you think Warburton has skills and competencies that's fair enough - I think the opposite though. We should agree to disagree.

[Pal]

More nonsense! Bonne has a decent record with every former manager. His goals have dried up under Warburton. Ditto with Dykes - he is NOT working his "magic" on these is he? Barbet has been a huge disappointment - he should be a dominant leader on the pitch but he's an inconsistent mouse - again, not seeing the Warburton "magic" at all with Barbet.

Adomah is irrelevant. He's an old man and is what he is. Same with Kane, nobody could make a footballer out of him. However, Warburton virtually ruined Lumley. His handling of Joe was frankly appalling, bordering on malicious and spiteful.... constantly playing a shell-shocked keeper who's confidence was manifestly shot.

Younger players have just naturally developed/matured over past couple of years. Eze and BOS were talented from the get go and just evolved. Same for Chair but I'm not actually convinced he's as effective as he ought to be. As for all our other "kids" they have been frankly useless and have not developed one iota and I doubt they are actually championship quality. I don't actually blame Warburton for that but you seem to want to pat him on the back simply for playing them (and quickly dropping them again).

Lastly, Hugill and Wells are experienced proven Championship scorers, Warburton played them during the "kamikaze phase" where we scored lots of goals and conceded even more. That brainless idiotic approach lasted a few months and hence Wells/Hugill boosted their goals record. Once we adopted a more sensible balanced shape the goals pretty much dried up for the pair of them.

The rest of the players are just performing how I'd expect a professional footballer to perform.

There is no compelling evidence that Warburton has some sort of knack for improving players. His overall record here and our league position certainly don't offer any evidence of this. I don't want to turn this thread into Warburton-bashing thread but you cannot expect to blithely say something like Warburton is good at getting the best out of players without getting challenged.

Whatever, everyone is entitled to their opinion. If you think Warburton has skills and competencies that's fair enough - I think the opposite though. We should agree to disagree.

Lets see if I can sum up the above;
Anyone who's any good, is good in spite of MW
Anyone who's crap, is crap because of MW

Not exactly fair IMHO

[LoftusRoadLad]

Message for Shania From Steff

https://twitter.com/i/status/1354111865589268481

[LoftusRoadLad]

We supplied a bus for him. They got the idea from Adel .