Completely Fed Up With Club Spin

[Bluehoop]

What has Ali Russell done?/

Not defending the man, but he is the one person i don't blame for the current situation.

Flavio would have set him targets

That's a fair point - he's is only doing his job - just because we don't like it doesn't make it his fault - but like most bosses, FB pays the man wages to avoid/share the grief and backlash.

[PeterG]

Pete accusing you of spin would be like accusing the A40 of being a dual carraigeway.

Glad you are having a "road to damascus" moment at last but this is simply the same spin and waffle that has been coming out of the club for ages

The song remains the same

[paulmason]

What has Ali Russell done?/

Not defending the man, but he is the one person i don't blame for the current situation.

Flavio would have set him targets

You are joking, aren't you ?

He brought his policies of squeezing fans till the pips squeek from Hearts.

His lies and spin which you have commented on several times.

The pricing structure

[jonno]

I suspect we have approached Warnock and he has declined the offer (despite rumours that I have direct telephone line to all news, ITS JUST MY OPINION), so now we are spoon fed that the players are behind Harford, so that in some way it deflects negative opinion away from the board and puts pressure on the players to win football matches

My own opinion is that will back-fire, these players have already shown they lack bottle, freeze in front of their own fans when the pressure is on and now because of the latest spin if we lose from the club, they will get it even more. I'm not going to comment on the potential takeover, but even that is taking forever and us fans deserve better.

We were promised Premiership/Champions League football in 4 years and even though those kind of expectations are unrealistic, the last thing we expected was the prospect of Division 1 football with 2 of the richest people in the world on the board!!

I really hope rumours of the takeover happen because after the latest stories of player power deciding who should be manager is disgraceful. They have not deserved the right to decide this. They under-performed in the last 2 games under Magilton and got waht they deserved an absolute rollicking for not putting in the effort. According to someone who I trust close to Gorman, it was down to training methods and the wok ethic that the players decided enough was enough. Also, the feeling that certain players were being singled out, two Gorkss and Buzsacky. The latter hasn't put in a shift since October.

I find the whole thing disgraceful that the players are even consulted about who the manager should be. I suspect Warnock has turned us down and now we are left in limbo and now this spin about how much the players want Harford is just a smokescreen. I'm totally fed up with this club, as it couldn't organise a p.iss up in a brewery.

Lets hope the Locals are being spun as well, as with harford till the end of the season, when he hasn't even won a game since he took charge, points only one way and that is Division 1 football next season.


One note of slight optiisim
The club do play the press like this sometimes, so their is a glimmer of hope they are playing down a Warnock move, more on that will be clearer when Colin comes out of his administration meeting at lunchtime

The words "pot" and "kettle" spring to mind.

[Hoopaman]

Pete, whatever did happen in your meeting with Ali Russell ? You've been a changed poster ever since and even now defending him!

The club haven't learned from there mistakes and until a big change at the top occurs I won't be renewing my season ticket. Fb and Gp have to go. The manager is the most important man at the club and he should be backed to the hilt by the chairman.
There's no room for a middle man in that relationship. Sporting director. What a joke!

[enzian]

Pete, whatever did happen in your meeting with Ali Russell ? You've been a changed poster ever since and even now defending him!

The club haven't learned from there mistakes and until a big change at the top occurs I won't be renewing my season ticket. Fb and Gp have to go. The manager is the most important man at the club and he should be backed to the hilt by the chairman.
There's no room for a middle man in that relationship. Sporting director. What a joke!

concur.

[Jimmy]

Great post Pete,

Only 6 months behind the rest of us though who seek to find the truth.

Now I wonder why player power at QPR exists, maybe someone keeps telling them how great they are (LONG CONTRACTS AND WATCHES) and when there not happy they get managers fired.

[Jimmy]

As for Ali Russell.

A man so far removed from reality and out of touch with anything outside the bubble that is HQ and his own self importance.

As i recall, how did he refer to you and me, oh yea thats it, customers.

The man has utter contempt for QPR fans on how they feel and what they think. All those meetings with QPR groups purely paying lip service Im afraid.

Sorry boys and girls he doesnt give a toss about us the fans, he only thinks in pounds and pence. Another one of those new guru marketing men who fail to see the big picture.

[Jimmy]

There be telling us next the training ground wasnt closed.

[Hoopaman]

A few awkward questions so pete creates a few more threads in the hope this one quickly vanishes off the front page..

What happened in your meeting with Ali Russell pete?

[bushcelt1]

The club i love has been ripped apart by the board...bad days ahead. Sick of who is taking over and our next manager is going to be!!! Until i see proof of these takeovers etc then i am going to hope for:the board ####ing off-relegation and starting from scratch....all i want as most do is my club back so i can be a proud hoop again!!!!! No more bull-sith and spin!!!!

[qblockpete]

Meeting with Ali Russell was a simple one..

Talking about compliing a DVD next season to celebrate 35 years since 1975-76 season. Have legends on the pitch first game of the season and ex player interviews and promoting it through the club.

No real issue.

Though, I doubt it will go ahead if we get relegated !!!!!!!!

Hardly spoke about anything else to be honest.

[Neo]

w12 points are correct

gp/fb the people who have been in charge have gone about running the club in the wrong way, we are a small "english" football club, who used to make the most of the grass routes players and selling on to make profit.

Abest you could say we were a over achieving club, gp / fb said they wanted to get back to that status "over achieving" small club and build on that, in sted went out getting players kicking arround out prem clubs without a contract etc paying big wages and all the other crap that went with it.

GP has built this club like a german/french/spanish club getting players in that he and FB want to see and getting a manager to mange them, which has not worked!!!

cut a long story short

if qpr want to survive this season they should get someone in now!

get someone in so they have a head start for next season (simular to what fb,gp should have done for sousa) let the manager sort out youth set up, play about with the team for the rest of the season and have a whole summer to recruit properly and add to the cause.

correct qpr could not of sacked buzz but magilton was doing well with us and we were playing good football, he had one bad patch and got rid of because a player had a tantrum? if qpr would have put buzz on the transfer list it would have showed they supported magilton and if buzzacky didnt like that he should of left, he hasnt performed since has he? if they did put him on transfer he might of just bucked up his ideas as not being funny who would want to take a player on who tried to get a manager sacked he wouldnt of left im prettie sure of that. besides that i respect magilton for his passion and if he gets in the face of a player who isnt doing what hes supposed to do hes only voicing the fans opinion further enhancing the fact he was doing a good job

passionate manager = passoinate players

thats the way it will work

What you have said here makes a hell of a lot of sense.
I agree with you 100%

[terry ball]

I suspect we have approached Warnock and he has declined the offer (despite rumours that I have direct telephone line to all news, ITS JUST MY OPINION), so now we are spoon fed that the players are behind Harford, so that in some way it deflects negative opinion away from the board and puts pressure on the players to win football matches

My own opinion is that will back-fire, these players have already shown they lack bottle, freeze in front of their own fans when the pressure is on and now because of the latest spin if we lose from the club, they will get it even more. I'm not going to comment on the potential takeover, but even that is taking forever and us fans deserve better.

We were promised Premiership/Champions League football in 4 years and even though those kind of expectations are unrealistic, the last thing we expected was the prospect of Division 1 football with 2 of the richest people in the world on the board!!

I really hope rumours of the takeover happen because after the latest stories of player power deciding who should be manager is disgraceful. They have not deserved the right to decide this. They under-performed in the last 2 games under Magilton and got waht they deserved an absolute rollicking for not putting in the effort. According to someone who I trust close to Gorman, it was down to training methods and the wok ethic that the players decided enough was enough. Also, the feeling that certain players were being singled out, two Gorkss and Buzsacky. The latter hasn't put in a shift since October.

I find the whole thing disgraceful that the players are even consulted about who the manager should be. I suspect Warnock has turned us down and now we are left in limbo and now this spin about how much the players want Harford is just a smokescreen. I'm totally fed up with this club, as it couldn't organise a p.iss up in a brewery.

Lets hope the Locals are being spun as well, as with harford till the end of the season, when he hasn't even won a game since he took charge, points only one way and that is Division 1 football next season.


One note of slight optiisim
The club do play the press like this sometimes, so their is a glimmer of hope they are playing down a Warnock move, more on that will be clearer when Colin comes out of his administration meeting at lunchtime

Fair points made there Pete and i agree with alot of what you say (for a change)

As regards to spin from the club, what do you think of Gianni's latest episode of him standing down? apparentley he was overheard in a cafe yesterday saying he wasn't going anywhere.

Strange hey?

[theblackmafia.]

The funniest Header for a thread ever - well done Pete