Sack Presided over a debacle on an epic scale. Nothing can excuse his part in our most recent humiliation
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Happy for Les to get the sack, but Steve putting on Washington and Wszolek when we were 4-1 was total stupidity. Parking the bus was in order then, but we then concede another three. Manning being shipped out is a dumb move when it means Cousins comes in. Cousins. An empty shirt would be more useful. Manning is at least a workhorse. Read on a LFW post that Smyth might be going out on loan too..... He's no Messiah, sure, but f caking hell if they do that, given our 'strike' force, then we must as well give up. We're run by f acking m orons. He hasn't impressed me, but faced with a choice between Les and Steve, I'd back Steve. Les has been a f acking disaster.
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Originally posted by Rangers77 View PostHappy for Les to get the sack, but Steve putting on Washington and Wszolek when we were 4-1 was total stupidity. Parking the bus was in order then, but we then concede another three. Manning being shipped out is a dumb move when it means Cousins comes in. Cousins. An empty shirt would be more useful. Manning is at least a workhorse. Read on a LFW post that Smyth might be going out on loan too..... He's no Messiah, sure, but f caking hell if they do that, given our 'strike' force, then we must as well give up. We're run by f acking m orons. He hasn't impressed me, but faced with a choice between Les and Steve, I'd back Steve. Les has been a f acking disaster.
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Originally posted by dogsrrs View Post
No that was is Penrice job he reports his findings to the manager and the dof
Cast your mind back. Every first team player we signed under Ollie looked like a Holloway player didn't they? Is it that hard to believe that the manager has been calling the shots on all first team signings, and all Les has been doing is loading up the U23's?
McLaren has come in expecting us to have a system in place, realised we haven't, knows F all about players at this level and we've failed to land anyone this window.
All hearsay, but I promise you it's hearsay from someone who knows what they're on about. If it's true it really doesn't bode well.
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Originally posted by Tarbie View Post
Exactly what I thought before yesterday mate. If what I've heard is accurate then the whole scouting and DoF system isn't functioning like it should be. Also worth bearing in mind that Penrice isn't even a permanent employee of the club. He's a Consultant, and apparently a good mate of Ollie.
Cast your mind back. Every first team player we signed under Ollie looked like a Holloway player didn't they? Is it that hard to believe that the manager has been calling the shots on all first team signings, and all Les has been doing is loading up the U23's?
McLaren has come in expecting us to have a system in place, realised we haven't, knows F all about players at this level and we've failed to land anyone this window.
All hearsay, but I promise you it's hearsay from someone who knows what they're on about. If it's true it really doesn't bode well.
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Originally posted by Rangers77 View Post
That's the kind of story a manager puts about as preparation for him jumping ship.....
If there's a struggle, who will Amit back? Les or Steve? Les is the biggest f uck up with a track record which is a crock of s hit, so let's hope it's Steve, eh?
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What a bloody mess of true
If Ollie was the brains behind who came in then perhaps he should be the DOF, might be a role that suits him better, less pressure and something he’s good at could see him actually doing that and character would assist him.
Huge questions have to be asked of Penrice as whatever way he’s employed his job is to identify players!! is he being #### because his mates gone??
i don’t know what to believe about this club anymore Les doing good job one minute then #### the next, ollie doing good job then tinkers and we go losing streak, board appear to sort club out then we’re on our knees again.
F ucking had enough of supporting this rudderless ship
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[QUOTE=Tarbie;n2480470]Originally posted by maidstone_hoop View Post
Basically mate. That, and there has been money to spend all summer, there is just nobody employed by the club since Ollie's departure who knows what to do with it. Absolute farking shambles if true!
I find it very hard to believe there is no-one at our club capable of buying a player. That just seems very unlikely. I can buy the fact that there is some stuff going on behind the scenes and some clashes of character but I am sure other people than Ollie would have been doing the player purchases/agreements even if he was identifying them. That smacks of someone putting out an exaggerated version of things (not you mate but maybe your source or your sources source!)
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Originally posted by SheepRanger View PostIf IH is still on the payroll for the last year of his contract bring him back in as a consultant. If SM resigns on that basis so be it....
This club is farked and needs gutting
nsa/cia spy on this..............┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐
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Originally posted by Tarbie View Post
Exactly what I thought before yesterday mate. If what I've heard is accurate then the whole scouting and DoF system isn't functioning like it should be. Also worth bearing in mind that Penrice isn't even a permanent employee of the club. He's a Consultant, and apparently a good mate of Ollie.
Cast your mind back. Every first team player we signed under Ollie looked like a Holloway player didn't they? Is it that hard to believe that the manager has been calling the shots on all first team signings, and all Les has been doing is loading up the U23's?
McLaren has come in expecting us to have a system in place, realised we haven't, knows F all about players at this level and we've failed to land anyone this window.
All hearsay, but I promise you it's hearsay from someone who knows what they're on about. If it's true it really doesn't bode well.QPR
Best team in the world
Sort of
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[QUOTE=CroydonCaptainJack;n2480549]Originally posted by Tarbie View Post
Firstly, good to see you back mate. Tarbie.
I find it very hard to believe there is no-one at our club capable of buying a player. That just seems very unlikely. I can buy the fact that there is some stuff going on behind the scenes and some clashes of character but I am sure other people than Ollie would have been doing the player purchases/agreements even if he was identifying them. That smacks of someone putting out an exaggerated version of things (not you mate but maybe your source or your sources source!)
Just to clarify, what I was saying I'd heard is that we have nobody capable of identifying players within our price range. Not that there was nobody physically capable of getting the deal over the line. McLaren doesn't know League 1 / lower end Championship well enough, Les doesn't do any scouting, and our Head Scout (or whatever Penrice is believed to be) is not even directly employed by the club, and quite possibly has his nose out of joint cos we sacked his mate.
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