Interesting loss ratio

[qblockpete]

ollyhoops exactly

Rehman
Barker
Malcom
Stewart

he had mancienne too, but was injured for a time

Anyone would find it hard with those 4

[writtler]

Writler.

Mullery had the pedigree too, played at the highest level.

Okay maybe a bit OTT, but he wasn't great with us

Yes but Mullery was a crap manager everywhere!

[sirpiechucker]

trust me mate i dont get excited by the transfer rumours.i would just rather concentrate on supprting my team than goin back talking about ex players and ex managers.of course like u had a prefereed certain managers but just want my fellow r's to get behind the team and whoever is in charge now or the future.

This won't happen though until the fans are assured of who and what team we are supposed to be supporting. Most fans are confused at the direction in which we are heading. We've now supported umpteen managers and umpteen different players in such a short space of time that we no longer no who QPR are.

Not that I want to discuss politics but if you supported a political party through thick and thin and then through change after change they became pro/anti europe and your opinions we're the complete opposite it's very difficult to continue supporting them in the same way.

[qblockpete]

Real trouble with Mullery he had a very hard act to follow in Venables

bit like Sousa with dowie:byebye:

[qblockpete]

Sirpiechucker, very good post

[writtler]

Have you ever looked at Dowie's record just before he left? or at Coventry the season before?

[sirpiechucker]

Dave Mc wrote recently that he thought we would have gone down the next season had LDC stayed - he is not alone in that opinion.

LDC's form towards the end of the season was decidely average after the initial run due to the influx of loans before the transfer window and then the signings made.

After Vine broke his leg and Buzsaky and Rowlands were injured our form from mid march to end of season was 1 win in 7.

[terry ball]

ollyhoops exactly

Rehman
Barker
Malcom
Stewart

he had mancienne too, but was injured for a time

Anyone would find it hard with those 4

He was another gem bought to the club by GP. Whilst Di Canio was already in charge might i add

[terry ball]

What your saying is daft.... Did you see the squad De Canio had when he took over? Rehman, Bolder, Curtis, Barker, Stewart, Moore, Lomas, Bignot, Nygarrd etc etc... exactly how was he supposed to produce magic? I thought he did very well and we would be top 2 by now had he stayed.

It is daft in the sense that ratios don't prove anything. I only put this up as Pete keeps on about Sousa having the lowest win ratio. As i said in the begining of the thread, it just puts a different slant on things.

In all honesty these kind of ratios hold no water whatsoever as they should only be judged on a WHOLE season

[qblockpete]

Writtler

The first year was to consolidate

Take us from Bottom of the championship to survival

Acheived his aim, hardly likely to make the Play offs from where we started.

All this talking about the past, is no good. All managers had good cases for them and all of them should have been given longer.

We are in this state because we have never give them along enough and panicked at the first opportunity, now we have this !!

[Dazzer1977]

Fair enough

though in truth whilst Sousa could have been our Mouriniho, he ended up being our Mullery

You can also say Pete if Sousa had the players like what Magilton had at the start of the season then things would be different, the same as if your aunt was a bloke she'd be your uncle. You are always negative with regards to Sousa, yet GP and Fat boy have done far worse and not a single criticism is directed at them. Care to explain why?

At the end of the day pretty much every half decent manager we have had should have been given more time which includes Sousa, Dowie & Magilton. All three of those were men who could take us forward. Instead of the tosh we have now!

I hear Di Canio is now the NO.1 priority in the summer and this is something which worries me. Previously there were a lot of players who didn't like his style and understanding him was a big issue. He too was a puppet of the board!

[Nodge70]

Writler.

Mullery had the pedigree too, played at the highest level.

Okay maybe a bit OTT, but he wasn't great with us

He wasn't great with anyone.....

Old Mullers was very much like LDC. Exciting big wins (6-2, 4-0 a few times), ridiculous draws (5-5, 3-3) and mental defeats clutched from the jaws of victory (Belgrade springs to mind and a right hammering at White Hart Lane - incidentally that Spurs team should've won the league that season).

So - Mullers=LDC and Sousa = Howe

[rangersroar]

I have said all along, if Sousa had been given a good strike force we would have won many more games and therefore the football would have been more enjoyable to watch as a result. We did not concede many under him, so wherever we went I was always confident we could get something from the game. I would rather win 1-0 and go home happy, than witness what has happened since.

[luke_qpr832]

I have said all along, if Sousa had been given a good strike force we would have won many more games and therefore the football would have been more enjoyable to watch as a result.

what was blackstock??i agree we still needed more but he never played him and was our best striker.

[W12_Ranger]

in all honesty lads who cares.there not here anymore and its unlikely that either will be back here.shouldnt we be concentratin on who is in charge now and getting behind the lads.they need us now more than ever if we are to get out of this mess.

What your saying is daft.... Did you see the squad De Canio had when he took over? Rehman, Bolder, Curtis, Barker, Stewart, Moore, Lomas, Bignot, Nygarrd etc etc... exactly how was he supposed to produce magic? I thought he did very well and we would be top 2 by now had he stayed.

Dave Mc wrote recently that he thought we would have gone down the next season had LDC stayed - he is not alone in that opinion.

LDC's form towards the end of the season was decidely average after the initial run due to the influx of loans before the transfer window and then the signings made.

As we keep getting reminded that Sousa had the lowest win ratio of managers since the takeover, I thought i would look at which Permanent manager had the lowest defeats ratio

Sousa- 26 games- 7 defeats- 27%
Dowie- 15 games- 4 defeats- 27%
Magilton - 22 games- 7 defeats 32%
Di Canio- 35 games-12 defeats 34%

So, for people to suggest that Di Canio had a better record than Sousa, the facts are there for you. Di Canio statistcly lost the most games. 12 draws in that as well, which over half of them came from us throwing away the lead.

He was definitly charasmatic, we did play entertaining football and he might be doing well in serie B, but his record here was the worst

Tel you can role out the stats all day long but when it comes Sousa, Petes angle in footballing terms is nowt but a smoke screen for something more sinister which will go down as one of the most darkest days in the history of this club.