If all form continues..this will be the table

[baz]

Davman reality is No progression whatever manager we have/had

And what does that tell you, that perhaps just perhaps the issue is not the manager

[eghamR]

On current form we will finish 2nd bottom on 34 points!

[terry ball]

Pete, We all want a manager to be given adequate time and the freedom to manage the side in the proper way. What concerns me though, is that if you only gave Sousa 20 odd games into his 26 before your hate campaign started, how long will you tolerate say Curbishley or Coppell if the style of play is not what you like?

[qblockpete]

More gutted about Magilton

Wasn't you?

[MKPaul]

More gutted about Magilton

Wasn't you?

Nope ... and top post W12

No response re the agenda and the remorse Pete .. or the fact you helped cause the problems we face now?

[qprjim]

w12 great post mate, sums up exactly how i feel about my football club at this moment in time. Pete will you be responding to w12's post?

[Sam-QPR]

w12 great post mate, sums up exactly how i feel about my football club at this moment in time. Pete will you be responding to w12's post?

doubt it

[qblockpete]

My reply to W12ranger would be

No manager has been given long enough, not just one man.

Don't dare trying to accuse me of damaging this football club, all I do is give opinions. Appreciate you don;t agree with them, but I don't set agendas, I am a fan just like you.

its up to others to agree or not, its only that. OPINIONS

[nobby]

QBP will not reply to W12rangers excellent post because it embarresses him because it is the truth. This is my first post on this site and probably my last and personally I find it embarrassing how fellow human beings hang on to the words of QBP week after week rumour after rumour when it is blatantly obvious that it is in his interest to get as many hits on the site as possible, and we all know why.

Sousa was an excellent manager with the FULL support of the players. Di Canio, for all of his association with the supporters, and a very pleasant individual as well, it seems from recall did not have the full support because of the language barrier. Di Canio was also on terms with QBP, (remember his leaving interview?). Magilton was a flawed individual who had flawed management skills and did not have the dressing room.

What is more is that Sousa was building a team from the back, ensuring that we did not lose first. You only have to look back in history and the successful managers building from the back. It is a tried and tested theory. Sousa also lacked the services of Rowlands, Vine and Buzsaky and had a thin squad to work with. But he did well, especially given that it was his first stint as a manager. Sure he made mistakes but that was inevitable but certainly not sackable. But he was undermined the moment that Paladini fell out with him, and that was highlighted by Paladini's pre-match comments to a group of supporters at Derby when he called him a c**t. Unforgivable and SACKABLE in my opinion. And then to orchestrate the demise of Sousa, Paladini gets you know who to begin a hate campaign against an individual who has lost more qualities in the virtues of being a decent human being than Paladini and his sidekick will ever have in their lifetime.

It is a crying shame for this football club that we found a potentially great manager then lost him, whilst retaining the services of Paladini and also the continuation of this website as it currently stands.

There, I've said my bit.

[pkloft]

opinion

a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.


spin

to produce, fabricate, or evolve in a manner suggestive of spinning thread: to spin a tale of sailing ships and bygone days.


bollx

what i think it is


you decide

[DermottMc]

I am not obsessed, I'm completely disulusionsed with the way my club is being run and very angry with those individuals responsible for its demise.

You had an agenda with Sousa which started a month before he was sacked, I don't like digging up old threads to prove a point but this was you seizing an oppurtunity to turn fans against Sousa shortly before he was sacked.

http://therangersboys.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=rumours&action=display&thread=21949

You talk like you know more about football than the man himself, he played at the highest level all his career, won 2 European Cups, I would suggest he knows a little bit more about tactics and formations than yourself.

What gave you right to mislead fans in this way having been given a scrap of information from the table which Paladini had fed you. Upon reflection of the events of the past couple of years and WATRB's contribution to the demise of this football club, you continue to have no remorse. I struggle to comprehend how you can call yourself a QPR fan at times when you continue to defend the indefensible.

The football at times under Sousa was boring to watch I would never deny that, but what you can't bring yourself to admit is that we were making progress regardless of his win ratio. You manipulate statistics to justify your points, you highlight a former manager who is now working in a foreign league to 'balance' your agrument, yet you refuse to acknowledge Sousa's contribution in the league we play in - what sort of contradiction is that.

I am seriously fearing for the future of my club, I'm concerned that we may end up ceasing to exist yet your main aim is save face on here, win the argument and defend the indefensible.

IMO and I'll spell this out to you now so its loud and clear, the sacking of Paulo Sousa by the end of this season may prove to be the biggest mistake this club has ever made. If we relegated and these £50 million debt rumours prove to be a lot closer to the truth then we are in the **** big time. I'm not a financial wizkid but I do know that a club our size, with that level of debt and League 1 football do not make a happy relationship.

So you carry on with your point scoring arguments, you lost the Sousa discussion a long time ago. You can push for De Canio to return but people will see straight through you. This website can also try to shift the blame 100% onto Briatore but intelligent posters of which this site is not in abundance off by comparison to other forums but there are a few will hopefully continue to put you in your place.

Case closed. Well put mate. Pete your reply was weak to say the least.

[scott_jones]

Rather than just coating off Pete can one of you ******s acknowledge that i wasnt on an anti sousa crusade...as proved in that post? It would be nice x

Peace and Love and Chicken

[pkloft]

I am not obsessed, I'm completely disulusionsed with the way my club is being run and very angry with those individuals responsible for its demise.

You had an agenda with Sousa which started a month before he was sacked, I don't like digging up old threads to prove a point but this was you seizing an oppurtunity to turn fans against Sousa shortly before he was sacked.

http://therangersboys.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=rumours&action=display&thread=21949

You talk like you know more about football than the man himself, he played at the highest level all his career, won 2 European Cups, I would suggest he knows a little bit more about tactics and formations than yourself.

What gave you right to mislead fans in this way having been given a scrap of information from the table which Paladini had fed you. Upon reflection of the events of the past couple of years and WATRB's contribution to the demise of this football club, you continue to have no remorse. I struggle to comprehend how you can call yourself a QPR fan at times when you continue to defend the indefensible.

The football at times under Sousa was boring to watch I would never deny that, but what you can't bring yourself to admit is that we were making progress regardless of his win ratio. You manipulate statistics to justify your points, you highlight a former manager who is now working in a foreign league to 'balance' your agrument, yet you refuse to acknowledge Sousa's contribution in the league we play in - what sort of contradiction is that.

I am seriously fearing for the future of my club, I'm concerned that we may end up ceasing to exist yet your main aim is save face on here, win the argument and defend the indefensible.

IMO and I'll spell this out to you now so its loud and clear, the sacking of Paulo Sousa by the end of this season may prove to be the biggest mistake this club has ever made. If we relegated and these £50 million debt rumours prove to be a lot closer to the truth then we are in the **** big time. I'm not a financial wizkid but I do know that a club our size, with that level of debt and League 1 football do not make a happy relationship.

So you carry on with your point scoring arguments, you lost the Sousa discussion a long time ago. You can push for De Canio to return but people will see straight through you. This website can also try to shift the blame 100% onto Briatore but intelligent posters of which this site is not in abundance off by comparison to other forums but there are a few will hopefully continue to put you in your place.

[Fawny]

(Not my work - cheers Paul K for working this out)

newcastle 100
forest 91
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wba 90
swansea 78
barnsley 71
leicster 71
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sheff U 70
cardiff 69
doncaster 61
blackpool 59
ipswich 58
derby 55
boro 54
bristolc 54
scunthorpe 54
palace 54
coventry 53
watford 53
reading 52
preston 50
sheff w 48
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qpr 47
plymouth 46
peterborough 32

Sorry, doesnt make any sense without some qualification.
This is the table if ALL form continues? What does that mean?
If form over the last 3 games continues, then we won't be getting another point surely?
So what exactly is the definition of "form"? Last 4 games? 6? 8? What?

[W12_Ranger]

QBP will not reply to W12rangers excellent post because it embarresses him because it is the truth. This is my first post on this site and probably my last and personally I find it embarrassing how fellow human beings hang on to the words of QBP week after week rumour after rumour when it is blatantly obvious that it is in his interest to get as many hits on the site as possible, and we all know why.

Sousa was an excellent manager with the FULL support of the players. Di Canio, for all of his association with the supporters, and a very pleasant individual as well, it seems from recall did not have the full support because of the language barrier. Di Canio was also on terms with QBP, (remember his leaving interview?). Magilton was a flawed individual who had flawed management skills and did not have the dressing room.

What is more is that Sousa was building a team from the back, ensuring that we did not lose first. You only have to look back in history and the successful managers building from the back. It is a tried and tested theory. Sousa also lacked the services of Rowlands, Vine and Buzsaky and had a thin squad to work with. But he did well, especially given that it was his first stint as a manager. Sure he made mistakes but that was inevitable but certainly not sackable. But he was undermined the moment that Paladini fell out with him, and that was highlighted by Paladini's pre-match comments to a group of supporters at Derby when he called him a c**t. Unforgivable and SACKABLE in my opinion. And then to orchestrate the demise of Sousa, Paladini gets you know who to begin a hate campaign against an individual who has lost more qualities in the virtues of being a decent human being than Paladini and his sidekick will ever have in their lifetime.

It is a crying shame for this football club that we found a potentially great manager then lost him, whilst retaining the services of Paladini and also the continuation of this website as it currently stands.

There, I've said my bit.

Brilliant post mate would like to see more of your material if your going to talk this sort of sense.