My Sentiments Exactly

[roose]

Davman:

I see your point and i was not trying to say that your post was wrong my point is all about how impossible it is to please the rangers fans.

If flavio said stick to what you like Dowie ignore all the fans out there booing and singing 442 442 you know best how many people would be up in arms saying the board don't listen to us Dowie don't know what he is doing blah blah blah.

What i wonder is can the board win? Us fans turn on each other the team the board at the drop of a hat and please don't say cos of the price hikes we did it before all that i thought we were a family club that stuck togther through the worst of times this season has proved that to be wrong.

[Youvebeenrangered]

Theres not a single bit of that post i disagree with! Great post!! Cant wait for next season. Its gonna be a blinder!

[writtler]

Having re -read it all I can say is what a load of ********

[writtler]

In fact on the same thread - couldn't put it better than Hud:-

The ####-licking toadyism that is epitomised by the original poster in this thread, and echoed by others throughout this sorry tale of 'success at all costs' is just one of the reasons I find myself loath to post on this board any more.

The fact that so-called supporters of 'my' club have such a slavish attitude to those who wield their wealth so gracelessly, and are willing to turn a blind eye to the often despicable behaviour of those only so recently in charge is depressing. If we, as fans, are so desperate to rubber-stamp anything our owners do, no matter how gauche or immoral, then we will end up with what we deserve - a club disenfranchised from its roots, its community and its original and loyal support - a club that is no more than a brand.

Perhaps we should not be surprised, in this post-consumerist age, that there are so many gullible people out there, who simply look at the surface gloss of things, and take their vicarious enjoyment from such a shallow relationship with their reality.

However, I am mindful of the fact that owners, chairman, prospective buyers, they have all come and gone, with their various attitudes and hype, yet it is we, the 'fans', who remain, and it is in us that the soul of the club is vested, not in some kitsch brand dreamt up by a vulgar Italian billionaire and his cronies. But consider this: if the true fans are disenfranchised, the soul will be gone, no matter what they say, in exactly the same manner as that club up the road; you know where I mean, the place where they have to hand out flags to their so-called fans, because the original and grass-roots support has been priced out and alienated from the club.

Of course I understand that the original poster and his ilk will simply scoff at this and say that indeed, this is precisely what they want; the shiny surface glitter of the 'holy grail' of premiership fooball at whatever cost. I say to them, all that glitters is not gold... but will it be too late when they find out, if they ever do?

The light at the end of the tunnel is ironically in this apparent recession: promulgated by those greedy vulgarians who promoted the kind of money-excessive uber-football we experience today, the sudden tightening of purse-strings means that perhaps, after all, we can look forward to a future where football is on a more level-playing field after all, where the grass-roots fans are not disenfranchised, and there is indeed, a genuine connection between club and supporter. Or is that too much to hope for?

In the meantime, as our club spins more than Gordon Brown's government, we look forward to the next tawdry saga that Paladini and his mates can involve us in. Onwards and upwards...

[Tracy]

Creepy, unnerving and uneasy. That's how it struck me :horror:

[qblockpete]

Writtler in all fairness spin works both ways. We've posted long enough to know that and views are hardly moveable.

Supporters will know what to expect from my posts and yours too.

Its fair enough that everyone has a view.

[MYU]

Football has changed and in order for QPR to keep up with the best it to has to change, this means us fans having to as well, otherwise we will never go up. We are a small club and the only way is down whilst other teams get stronger around us.

As long as this board don't do Chelsea and buy the league I will be happy, I'd rather they build the team and take their time, whats the big rush anyway?

That's my view not anyone else's!

[TheBlackMafia]

Yeah, great post from Connors, as usual :grimace:

In fact on the same thread - couldn't put it better than Hud:-

The ####-licking toadyism that is epitomised by the original poster in this thread, and echoed by others throughout this sorry tale of 'success at all costs' is just one of the reasons I find myself loath to post on this board any more.

The fact that so-called supporters of 'my' club have such a slavish attitude to those who wield their wealth so gracelessly, and are willing to turn a blind eye to the often despicable behaviour of those only so recently in charge is depressing. If we, as fans, are so desperate to rubber-stamp anything our owners do, no matter how gauche or immoral, then we will end up with what we deserve - a club disenfranchised from its roots, its community and its original and loyal support - a club that is no more than a brand.

Perhaps we should not be surprised, in this post-consumerist age, that there are so many gullible people out there, who simply look at the surface gloss of things, and take their vicarious enjoyment from such a shallow relationship with their reality.

However, I am mindful of the fact that owners, chairman, prospective buyers, they have all come and gone, with their various attitudes and hype, yet it is we, the 'fans', who remain, and it is in us that the soul of the club is vested, not in some kitsch brand dreamt up by a vulgar Italian billionaire and his cronies. But consider this: if the true fans are disenfranchised, the soul will be gone, no matter what they say, in exactly the same manner as that club up the road; you know where I mean, the place where they have to hand out flags to their so-called fans, because the original and grass-roots support has been priced out and alienated from the club.

Of course I understand that the original poster and his ilk will simply scoff at this and say that indeed, this is precisely what they want; the shiny surface glitter of the 'holy grail' of premiership fooball at whatever cost. I say to them, all that glitters is not gold... but will it be too late when they find out, if they ever do?

The light at the end of the tunnel is ironically in this apparent recession: promulgated by those greedy vulgarians who promoted the kind of money-excessive uber-football we experience today, the sudden tightening of purse-strings means that perhaps, after all, we can look forward to a future where football is on a more level-playing field after all, where the grass-roots fans are not disenfranchised, and there is indeed, a genuine connection between club and supporter. Or is that too much to hope for?

In the meantime, as our club spins more than Gordon Brown's government, we look forward to the next tawdry saga that Paladini and his mates can involve us in. Onwards and upwards...

That's more like it! I got in there first though with my quick and simple - if not a tad sarcastic, remark.

[qblockpete]

so in summary

I've moaned every year i've supported QPR?

Even when Jim Gregory didn't buy the school end and use the car park behind for QPR fans?

[TheBlackMafia]

so in summary

I've moaned every year i've supported QPR?

Even when Jim Gregory didn't buy the school end and use the car park behind for QPR fans?

Eh? :what:

[qblockpete]

car park behind the school end,

apologies.

These guys probably booed Gerry Francis later in his playing career as well..Supporting QPR seems such a chore to some people throughout our history

[TheBlackMafia]

car park behind the school end,

apologies.

These guys probably booed Gerry Francis later in his playing career as well..Supporting QPR seems such a chore to some people throughout our history

Who are 'these guys'?

[qblockpete]

don't worry, pre Andy Sinton

[TheBlackMafia]

don't worry, pre Andy Sinton

What are you on about!? Pre Sinton era? Either I have read the thread wrong, or you are writing on the wrong thread!

[qblockpete]

nah, just talking about whingers never being happy>

Same ones now moaning were probably young men who booed Tony Sealy, moaned about changing to astro-turf and going back further said they will never watch Rangers again, once Rodney Marsh left the club.

Whinging must be in the blood.